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 Post subject: Re: Lord of the Rings ~It's Been 15 Years.... Time for a Reb
PostPosted: October 5th, 2016, 12:36 pm 
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More than the somewhat semi-erotic dream of Aragorn's after his cliff fall and before he wakes up kissing a horse? :lol: More of the serious background and relationship development could be added in. In fact, one could make quite a good 'prequel' movie based on the story of Aragorn and Arwen. Not sure how the dynamic would work for Arwen while Aragorn was off being Thorongil. There is a whole tale in itself on the travels of Aragorn.


Yes exactly! :lol: Even the first scene with Arwen in TTT could have been shorter and less dramatic, but the pre-horse kissing scene didn't really add anything. I'd rather see some actual background, or indeed something more about Aragorn. That would also help explain why Legolas is so impressed by Aragorn and defends him during the Council of Elrond. Now it's easy to be more on Boromir's side, thinking that Aragorn might have a royal name but he hasn't done anything remotely interesting so far... so background would be good!

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 Post subject: Re: Lord of the Rings ~It's Been 15 Years.... Time for a Reb
PostPosted: October 5th, 2016, 1:09 pm 
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I do believe the glance was all offered in the theatrical cut. Honestly I remember the conversation but not what was said in the EE. Shows how long it has been since I watched it. :P


I would love to see more of Aragorn's background. Heck you could make a whole movie out of some of that!

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 Post subject: Re: Lord of the Rings ~It's Been 15 Years.... Time for a Reb
PostPosted: January 2nd, 2017, 2:16 am 
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I do believe the glance was all offered in the theatrical cut. Honestly I remember the conversation but not what was said in the EE. Shows how long it has been since I watched it. :P


I would love to see more of Aragorn's background. Heck you could make a whole movie out of some of that!


Yes.... giving the whole re-boot idea a rethink in 2017, I wonder how a miniseries format would work. It could be either a 'Game of Thrones/Vikings' format, or better yet, a 'Rogue One' side-movie format. I think that showing chapters could work to an extent.

Another 're-boot' thought I had is to take what PJ has presented, and tweak it to be more what we would like to see.

I'll start with Fellowship...

Other than a change in actors for Frodo and Arwen, I would keep the movie as-is up to the part where Aragorn is searching for Athelas. There, I would have one of the Dunedain Rangers come by, but not catching Aragorn out at unawares. Always though that was really cheesy. Then have either Glorfindal, one or both of the Sons of Elrond, or even Arwen meet them. I'll allow Arwen to be the master horseman that takes Frodo to the fords, but give Elrond his due in conjuring up the river against the Nazgul. The rest is passable, I think I can live with the rest.

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 Post subject: Re: Lord of the Rings ~It's Been 15 Years.... Time for a Reb
PostPosted: January 2nd, 2017, 2:23 am 
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Yes, I myself was not keen on the whole Arwen being the one to show up and especially not her catching him off guard. It's inconsistent at best.

Personally I would cut Arwen out of that event all together, but I could easily live with ypur version. I too would not make it seem as though Arwen conjured the river.

My memory my be falty but was it just Elrond? I was under the impression that Gandalf helped him.



A rogue One style side movie would be amazing! I would love that to no end!

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 Post subject: Re: Lord of the Rings ~It's Been 15 Years.... Time for a Reb
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Gandalf admitted adding his own touches, like the water forming into horse heads I believe.

I'm not against Arwen's role being expanded, but how I woul ddo it would be to have her ride with her brothers and the Dunedain Rangers south to meet Aragorn in Rohan. That in itself adds some plot=flow issues, but I have a fix for that as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Lord of the Rings ~It's Been 15 Years.... Time for a Reb
PostPosted: January 3rd, 2017, 10:34 pm 
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I gotcha. I was thinking he was involved somehow.


Yeah, I guess that would be alright. I just have a pet peve against Arwen in a way. :P Only fulled more so by their choice of Live Tyler in the movies.

With a different actress I might well change my mind on her parts, but I certainly would like the scene with the Etheles after Frodo is stabbed, to be better portrayed to book content.

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 Post subject: Re: Lord of the Rings ~It's Been 15 Years.... Time for a Reb
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Jax Nova wrote:
I just have a pet peve against Arwen in a way. :P Only fulled more so by their choice of Live Tyler in the movies.

Yeah, I could have cast any number of other actors for the role of Arwen back in 1999. Three that come to mind right off is Kristen Kruek, Catherine Bell, and Catherine Zeta Jones. And getting back to my screenplay rewrite.... The Thirty Rangers and the Children of Elrond ride hard south to find Aragorn, and there could be a rough-hewn romantic reunion between Arwen and Aragorn when they meet King Theoden's party riding back from Isengard. And think of the jealous three-way that could be done at Dunharrow.....

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 Post subject: Re: Lord of the Rings ~It's Been 15 Years.... Time for a Reb
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That certainly would add a different twist to things no doubt. lol

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 Post subject: Re: Lord of the Rings ~It's Been 15 Years.... Time for a Reb
PostPosted: January 8th, 2017, 5:25 pm 
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No doubt.

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