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Post subject:  Posted: July 25th, 2007, 1:25 pm |
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Fíriel_18190 wrote: I sooo agree with what you guys have written.
I had a friend who claimed herself LotR obsessed, but she really only watched the movies, she never touched the books and she didn't really know what was going on in the story. All she cared about was the way Legolas looked. Luckily she doesn't call herself a fan anymore, but she isn't my friend anymore anyways. It's the same with other friends of mine.
Ick. I know just what you mean.  Just yesterday I watched the EEs with two friends of mine, both of whom have seen the theatrical versions. One of them is reading the book right now (at the part where the Fellowship leaves Lorien - he says he's savoring it so at least I have one friend who understands  ) and is completely open to reading everything else Tolkien-related. The other... *cough* Honestly, love this girl to death, but she won't read the books no matter how much I beg.  And her favorite character is of course Legolas. *shrugs* I tried. _________________ 
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Post subject: Posted: July 26th, 2007, 3:04 am |
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oh yeah, that's exactly what I mean. I also once met a girl who called herself a LotR fan, but didn't like the books, just the movies.. I dunno, somehow I have a problem with that since it was the books that came first. She said she found the books boring.. No way that I can understand that.. I guess she just didn't understand them (she isn't the brightest person I've ever met).
I dunno, I guess some people won't like the LotR books no matter how much you try to explain them to those people..
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Post subject: Posted: August 4th, 2007, 1:45 pm |
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I have born absolute madness in order to have a conversation with someone about lord of the rings. They usually can not remember the character's name, but persist in calling Arwen "that princess, not the one with the blonde hair but the one with the dark hair." Ouch. And Frodo is "the cute one." 
(Mourns the loss of a lotr obsessed friend)
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Post subject: Re: Ignorant fans (mostly movie fans...) Posted: August 4th, 2007, 9:08 pm |
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Haldir o Lórien wrote: When any of you ever watch the film with other people who say they love LotR... doesn't it annoy you when they ask the most stupidest questions or if they make the stupidest comments? Like, asking a question to understand what's happening is one thing... but a lot of questions really bug me. Or comments. When I was watching RotK with my class. Girl: (points to the fell beasts and trolls with siege towers) What are those? Girl #2: Oh (casually) those are the dragons. And those are the ogres with the catapults. Me: No, those are actually Winged Beasts of the Nazgûl, and those are the Olog-hai with siege towers. If you don't know, then just say so. Later on... (the Eagles show up) Girl: Why couldn't the Eagles have flown Frodo over to Mt. Doom in the first place... that would have been so easy and it would have saved so much trouble. Me: You like LotR, don't you? Girl: Yes... Me: If the Eagles could fly Frodo to Mt. Doom so easily, it wouldn't be a very good story. Girl: I guess. Me: Just shut up and watch the movie. .... and people who pretend to know what they're talking about... Haldir wrote: Ah... I dislike Melkor. Since you've passed the part about the creation of the Orcs, what do you think about it? Some say that the Orcs were made from tortured and mutilated Elves and some say that they were created simply in mockery, but not physically by them. I've had this discussion with nearly everyone I know who has read at the very least up unto that part.
What do you think of Morgoth's race? Haldir's friend wrote: I guess its okay...right cuz like he did needed an army for himself, wait in the book dosnt it just say that it was simply for the mockery that the orcs where crated?....or maybe I'm reading it wrong. But I really like some of the parts where you get to hear Morgoth talking, like even if he was part of the Valor I think its just fasanating how he came into an evil mind So far I think the book is really good and understandable, if only i wasn't a sleepy person =/....then maybe I would actually remember stuff. Oh and yesterday I was reading alot and now I'm at the part where Feanor created the Silmarils and Melkor as turned him agianst the Valors and he just left Fingolin in Araman and went to Middle-Earth. And they started to talk about the Dwarvas. Haldir wrote: It's okay??!?! So you think that it is perfectly fine for someone evil to go and enslave the Firstborn, and create foul and corrupted Orcs just because he needed an army? I definitely think otherwise.... our opinions on good and evil definitely oppose each others'. And shut up, you're rambling. I'm definitely not saying that I know every little detail about Tolkien's books (there is A LOT that I don't know actually), but people who pretend to know more than they do just annoy me!  Anyone else share that feeling? Been there, those people are annoying. _________________  Faith isn't the ability to believe long and far into the misty future.
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Post subject: Posted: August 5th, 2007, 4:51 pm |
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I know what you mean its the actor fan girls who bug me the most.
Don't get me wrong I love Orlando Bloom (and yes Legolas is one of my fav characters) and I will admit I saw the movies before I read the books (I tried the books aged 11 after reading The Hobbit and couldn't get into them but then read them when the films came out) but at least I did read the books (eventually I lost my copy of fotr when I was in the middle of it and it took me 6 months to find the book.) But I really HATE the girls who's only concern is how "hot" the actors look and then say they love lotr but can't answer even the simplest question about it!!!  . I mean come on!
As for watching the films with my friends.... lets just say I wanted to kill them (and I adore these people). They spent the WHOLE film (fotr) going "Which one is it you like Charlotte?" "Is that him?" or there is my other friend who (luckily) has read the books but now believes he is a complete expert on books/films. However when it came to a lotr trivia/fact test I kicked the "expert"'s butt. lol
And I'm sure it's only a small group of HP fans who believe that HP is better. I like them both the same.
And I think my bedroom is proof of how much I like lotr (ignoring the non-lotr posters). I painted the runes from the front of my copy round the top of my room (that took hours), I'm going to paint the Evenstar symbol on my wardrobe (when I get the hang of drawing it) and a leaf motif (from a Legolas mug!) round my light switch. And of course I am in the middle of making my canopy more elven. You have no idea how long it takes to sew fake flowers onto net….
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Post subject: Posted: August 7th, 2007, 3:44 am |
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^ Oh my, you're room sounds gorgous!
I try to avoid those kinds of people, myself. Or at least try to be patient with them, while highly recommending that they read the book first before I'm willing to really talk about it. I remember when I first saw FotR, at about 11 years old after a friend of mine had convinced me to rent it and watch it. I remember asking her to remind me what "that archery guy's" name was and how I thought Merry and Pippin were twins, and couldn't tell Boromir and Aragorn apart.
However, if they pretend they're an expert just because they saw the movie twice, then I don't want anything to do with them.  _________________ 
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Post subject: Posted: August 7th, 2007, 10:20 am |
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Your room does sound gorgeous! If I were rich I would buy a whole house and decorate every room with an lotr theme. 
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Post subject: Posted: August 7th, 2007, 1:11 pm |
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I think my all-time favorite quote I've ever heard while watching LotR (FotR) is: "Wait, so the short guy's Gandalf, right?"
Granted, the person who said that doesn't pretend to be overly obsessed with the movies, but she does claim to at least like them (and she actually watched TTT and RotK before FotR  ).
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Post subject: Posted: August 7th, 2007, 10:17 pm |
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Post subject: Posted: August 8th, 2007, 1:52 pm |
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pirateoftherings wrote: I think my all-time favorite quote I've ever heard while watching LotR (FotR) is: "Wait, so the short guy's Gandalf, right?" Granted, the person who said that doesn't pretend to be overly obsessed with the movies, but she does claim to at least like them (and she actually watched TTT and RotK before FotR ). lol. That is an intresting way to mix up characters (I too got Aragorn/Boromir mixed up). And a novel way to watch the films, I must try watching a trilogy backwards. It would be so cool to watch things suddenly make sense about 6 hours after it confused you.
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Post subject: Posted: August 8th, 2007, 8:43 pm |
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Aranel_En_Mirkwood wrote: pirateoftherings wrote: I think my all-time favorite quote I've ever heard while watching LotR (FotR) is: "Wait, so the short guy's Gandalf, right?" Granted, the person who said that doesn't pretend to be overly obsessed with the movies, but she does claim to at least like them (and she actually watched TTT and RotK before FotR ). lol. That is an intresting way to mix up characters (I too got Aragorn/Boromir mixed up). And a novel way to watch the films, I must try watching a trilogy backwards. It would be so cool to watch things suddenly make sense about 6 hours after it confused you.  You know what's ironic about that? The theater release dates for the three LOTR movies were stairstepped, with TTT being released 364 days after FOTR, and ROTK being released 364 days after that. Interesting, no? _________________
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Post subject: Posted: August 23rd, 2007, 4:46 am |
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I only watch the LotR films, with family/friends whom I know are interested in the storyline
..too much trouble otherwise...he he
look what the rest of you have had to put up with!
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Post subject: Posted: August 24th, 2007, 10:35 am |
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Ánië Súrion wrote: :lol: You know what's ironic about that? The theater release dates for the three LOTR movies were stairstepped, with TTT being released 364 days after FOTR, and ROTK being released 364 days after that. Interesting, no?
, that is quite interesting and very ironic
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Post subject: Posted: November 23rd, 2007, 6:56 pm |
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Oh gosh, Haldir, I know what you mean. Loads of people in my class have seen the films and when faced with the book, they were like: "What? Hang, this isn't meant to happen!" and "Arwen saved Frodo from the wraiths, not this Glorfindel guy" and "Where are the elves at Helms Deep?" oh, and check this out..."Who is this Gildor? Or Elladan? Or Elrohir? And this Gil-galad person?" 
Gosh, if they don't know by now who Gil-Galad is....they fail miserably. And here I am trying to explain it, and then some doofus says "But I only care about Legolas" so annoying! *Rolls eyes*  _________________ 'I've left my broomstick behind-what more do you want?!'
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Post subject: Posted: November 23rd, 2007, 8:54 pm |
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^Well...at least they *tried*. _________________
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Post subject: Posted: November 24th, 2007, 9:23 am |
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yeah well.. they half tried I guess.. at least they read the books which is something. But putting the movie facts before the book facts is an absolute no-no for me.
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