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Post subject: Who's Elbereth?? Posted: December 22nd, 2005, 11:06 pm |
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I heard/read alot about her/him in the books and movies, but I never really figured out who or what (s)he was/is, and it's driving me crazy Could someone please tell me sorry if this is a really stupid question I'm a really new fan to lotr, and havn't read all the books and it never explains who/what he/she is in the movies.....
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Post subject: Posted: December 23rd, 2005, 2:40 am |
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Joined: 06 May 2005 Posts: 15181 Location: Minas Morgul
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Well in truth, Elbereth is basically another name for Varda, Elbereth is less widely known name.
She was created by Iluvatar and is the wife of Manwe.
Hope that helped!
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Post subject: Posted: December 24th, 2005, 8:02 pm |
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I think she's sorta like the queen of the stars. She made them. I think. Anyone correct me if I'm wrong!
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Post subject: Posted: December 24th, 2005, 8:43 pm |
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You're very much right Elenya.
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Post subject: Posted: December 25th, 2005, 5:37 pm |
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Yeah, she created the stars. The Elves love her the most out of all the Valar, because the first thing they saw when they were created were the stars. I read in the Sil or somewhere that she was the one Morgoth was the most afraid of. I don't remember why.
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Post subject: Posted: December 26th, 2005, 2:09 pm |
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Kitoky wrote: Well in truth, Elbereth is basically another name for Varda, Elbereth is less widely known name. She was created by Iluvatar and is the wife of Manwe.
I would say Elbereth is the more common name for Varda. As far as I remember she is called Varda in the Silmarillion and Elbereth in the trilogy.
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Post subject: Posted: December 26th, 2005, 8:12 pm |
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I see.
I only know her as Varda....but I know that Frodo calls her Elbereth in Fellowship of the Ring.
Thanks Ea.
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Post subject: Posted: January 2nd, 2006, 11:54 am |
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Joined: 30 December 2005 Posts: 1175 Location: The Green Dragon
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um...
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Post subject: Posted: January 8th, 2006, 12:23 pm |
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Joined: 21 June 2005 Posts: 305 Location: The Netherlands, Bleiswijk
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Didn't knew Elbereth was a She
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Post subject: Posted: January 8th, 2006, 12:35 pm |
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Joined: 30 December 2005 Posts: 1175 Location: The Green Dragon
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yeah...whatever
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Post subject: Posted: January 9th, 2006, 4:45 am |
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Joined: 21 June 2005 Posts: 305 Location: The Netherlands, Bleiswijk
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Lol.....What does it matter anyway 8)
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Post subject: Posted: January 9th, 2006, 7:56 pm |
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Joined: 30 December 2005 Posts: 1175 Location: The Green Dragon
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silly elf
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Post subject: Posted: January 9th, 2006, 9:01 pm |
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Kitoky wrote: Well in truth, Elbereth is basically another name for Varda, Elbereth is less widely known name. She was created by Iluvatar and is the wife of Manwe. Hope that helped!
The name part being less known is kind of like Aragorn being called Elessar or Strider.
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Post subject: Posted: January 9th, 2006, 9:01 pm |
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Joined: 30 December 2005 Posts: 1175 Location: The Green Dragon
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good example
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Post subject: Posted: January 9th, 2006, 11:39 pm |
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Numenorian: I think I would've let it go if you only did this once but you posted 4 CONSECUTIVE posts that were the most useless posts...ever in the history of A-U's most useless posts.
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