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PostPosted: June 27th, 2005, 3:28 pm 
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Ok, I don't mean to offend anyone here, but after looking over a lot of these profiles, I thought it wouldn't hurt to just stick a quick note in here about a few things.

Number one: I hate to bring this up ladies, but an Elf cannot be a great healer and a great warrior at the same time. That was stated in Morgoth's Ring. Certain skills and mindsets are needed for the art of healing, right? Especially when dealing with magic (as most healers do) and the works of herbs. And also a certain mindset is needed for a warrior, as I'm sure I don't need to explain. An Elf must choose in their life whether to be a warrior or a healer. They cannot be both. That is why, actually, it would be realistic if King Thranduil of Mirkwood would beat Lord Elrond of Imladris in a sparring match if they would ever go at it, as though Elrond is able to use a sword, he probably isn't famous for it at all, and probably hardly ever uses it, unlike Thranduil, as he is a king and a warrior. Just so you guys know, because, like I said, I've seen several profiles now where the girls are both excellent healers and great warriors. And I'm just saying...it's not possible.

Another thing: I won't turn this into a big lecture thing, but I'm always noticing that in the profiles, the girls are almost always described as "exeedingly beautiful", or that they were born to resemble Luthien, or have Este's healing powers, or are were made in the form of Nimrodel, or whatever, and I say...why say that? All Elves are all naturally beautiful, so it's not like we'll assume that they're plain or ugly if you don't describe them as beautiful...and I think what really makes a good character is not what the character looks like or what the character is able to do (all these magical powers and great warrior/healer skills), but what the character is like. In other words, try to focus more on developing the personality than all the outside stuff. Again, I really hope I'm not offending anyone, it's just my measly little opinion.

Ok, I think that's it. :) Happy RP'ing girls, and good luck with those charries!

~Mevie

P.S. And just one quick thing about the horses...do they have to be related to Shadowfax in order to be good and special animals? I mean, not that I've seen a lot of that, but it did catch my eye once or twice...


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Hmm. I'm not sure this is something we can really afford to worry too much about, though I completely agree with you.
The only character I'm currently playing is Elwen, and she is more of a healer than a warrior, though she does fight when needed. I suppose you might say she's both. But I didn't create her! I took her over after someone else left. So don't blame me. :P
I'm not sure I exactly understand why they can't be healers and warriors, but I'm not going to dispute it. One thing that bothers me is that Mary Sues are really prevalent right now...come on people, we aren't going to have a single good RPG if everyone can control elements, is an amazing warrior, etc. And almost every character on here has a tragic past. I probably shouldn't talk, because Elwen does, but again, I didn't create her. I think it's much more fun to be somewhat common, because what's an RPG without everday characters? Besides, it's much more realistic, because you get to see your character grow as the story unfolds. I love that part of RPG- it's like watching a kid grow up!

As for physical description, I couldn't agree more. Again, I don't think it's something we can do much about now, but it's very true. One of the things that bothers me the most is the way everyone says "VERY long hair." Well, just about everyone had long hair at that time. And I don't think we need to include the word 'beautiful' in any profile...a little vain, eh? :P Personality is much more important. I won't say I've never done this, I'm imperfect too ya know, but it is really annoying. These RPGs are totally and completely pointless without a few regular, everyday characters!

whew, rant over. Oh, and the shadowfax bit...also extremely annoying. Heh. :P

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PostPosted: July 2nd, 2005, 9:39 pm 
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Morgoth's Ring says, Nie:

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For instance, the arts of healing and all that touches on the care of the body, are among all the Eldar most practiced by the nissi (women); whereas it was the elven-men who bore arms at need. And the Eldar deemed that the dealing of death, even when lawful, or under necessity, diminished the power of healing, and that the virtue of the nissi in this matter was due rather to their abstaining from hunting or war than to any special power that went with their womanhood. Indeed, in dire straights or desperate defence the nissi fought valiently, and there was less difference in strength and speed between elven men and elven women that had not born child than is seen among mortals.
On the other hand, many elven men were great healers and skilled in lore of living bodies, though such men abstained from hunting and went not to war until the last need.

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PostPosted: July 2nd, 2005, 9:42 pm 
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Okay, thanks Ar! That helped quite a bit.

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Not to be rude, mean, or anything...

I was looking over the first post, and noticed te words "it was stated in Morgoth's Rings". Now, I've read the book. But this bugged me. In fact, many things that you said did. but let's get to the first one.

I would like to say that not everyone has read Morgoth's Ring, some have not even heard of it. If that part is only mentioned in Morgoth's Ring, people who have not read the book would not know that, so it would be O.K. You may want to know that before you get on people for having characters who are both great warriors and a skilled healer.

Tragic pasts thing? They make a character more interesting, and it gives them a reaon. the character I have on several fourms has parents who died when she was young and she was left to wander. Tragic? yes. Interesting? yes. I chose so for an RP i was doing that would not have worked unless i chose so.

As for the other stuff...yes, it's not very imaginative. but maybe htere's a reason for them choosing that. i personally don't see why you care. yes, it gets ridicolous after a while, but it dosen't matter. people should be allowed to make their own choices for an RP character, adn people shouldn't have to have someone crticizing them for it. there is a quote that says

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Those who are not wise become teachers,
Those who have not even the aptitude to teach become critics


And you're sounding an awful lot like a critic to me.

Remember, I'm not trying to be mean..its just what i have to say on the subject.[/quote]

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*looks over comments* Hmmm...well, it is just as I feared. I warned myself before I put this note up that I might be touching a few tender nerves by bringing this up, and I did try to make it clear that this was not meant to offend or lecture anyone...but I guess I kind of blew it huh? *shakes head* I'm really not trying to criticize anyone here! I never meant it that way AT ALL, and I'm sorry that you had to take it up that way. There are some people that appreciate a few tips and reminders and pointers now and then to help shape their character into something better than it already is, and that was all I was trying to do. After all, the more realistic and believable a character is, I find, the more fun it is to explore and learn about. I'm not trying to make anyone feel bad, or throw their character in the trash. It's just a tip, and you can take that as criticism if you like, but I had no intention to make it so.

[qoute]Tragic pasts thing? They make a character more interesting, and it gives them a reaon. the character I have on several fourms has parents who died when she was young and she was left to wander. Tragic? yes. Interesting? yes. I chose so for an RP i was doing that would not have worked unless i chose so. [/quote]

Well, that's just fine! I never said it was TERRIBLE if you had that happen! Infact, many people do find that very interesting. And then again, some don't. Some are looking for more originality, something new and something they've never seen before. I'm a bit like those people, I'm afraid. It was nothing personal toward you at all. As it is nothing personal toward anyone else! It was just a tip. Nothing more, nothing less, and certainly nothing to get upset over. To each his/her own opinion, and I do respect that. That is why I made it clear in my "note" that it was just my measly little opinion, and these were indeed facts from Morgoth's Ring, whether anyone has read it or not. And I'm not blaming them for that either! Some people can't afford the book, believe me, I know! But is a tip coming from it really that bad?

Thanks for your time gals! And again, I'm really sorry if I insulted anyone. I did not mean to. You can make your character anything you want, and I won't come down on you for doing so.

~Mevie

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Mevie,
I just want you to know that I found your post very interesting and I'm glad you posted it. I for one am not good at all at makeing up a past of anykind for my characters and what you said kinda made me feel better about that. So thank you for makeing this thread.

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:blush: Hey, you are very welcome RohanGal. And thank you! I'm very glad you liked it, and I'm very grateful for your support. Thanks for the note! Glad it made you feel better! :)

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