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Post subject: Re: Freedom - Talk of Treason  Posted: June 30th, 2011, 12:52 pm |
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Post subject: Re: Freedom - Talk of Treason Posted: June 30th, 2011, 1:02 pm |
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Eeee, thank you!  I'm really glad you liked it  You're right, twenty-year-old Gardenia and twenty-six-year-old Gardenia are very subtly different people, though I can't pinpoint exactly how, which is stupid, since I wrote the narrative  Do you think you could explain what you thought was different as you read it, pretty please? I loves feedback, I does 
btw, writing Gardenia's perspective of Lucius was pretty fun =D I feel a bit sorry for her really, since it's her obsession with Lucius that ended up warping her view of the world. O_o
You're v.good at lengthy posts missus  Perhaps we should have a competition someday to see who could write the longest post  Eek, the very thought is slightly scary! XD
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Post subject: Re: Freedom - Talk of Treason Posted: June 30th, 2011, 1:15 pm |
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Ahahaha, I think we'd actually break poor Sharky's End. Still, quality over quantity... I write too much. It's all very much just random details that spring! into my head, accompanied occasionally by the daft noises you see written everywhere inside comic books.  My brian is a very strange place to live in... 
I'm not sure, it's not something that's entirely pinpoint-able, I suppose. I guess she seemed a little less self-sufficient, a little less aware of the world, maybe. Makes sense, I guess, 'cause both of those things could have cropped up in her character when she got her job working for Lucius - she moved away from her parents and started doing her own thing rather than relying on their contacts and she was able to see what the Governors saw.
... Did any of that that actually make sense? I'll be impressed if it did.
Then do feel free to use him in any which way you like. Within reason. And don't let Allegra bait him too much, the guy has low self-esteem.
...LOL JK. xD
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Post subject: Re: Freedom - Talk of Treason Posted: June 30th, 2011, 1:29 pm |
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Post subject: Re: Freedom - Talk of Treason Posted: June 30th, 2011, 1:49 pm |
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I'd love to see him cry, to be honest.
You know, what I think we REALLY need for this board is a parody thread. Not a serious RPG thread, just one to spam with miscellaneous canon and non-canon characters. I'd love it. I'd probably clog it up...
Is it possible to spam a thread specifically designed for spamming, though?
Indeed, very interesting. I love reading it. The changes to a character's personality are the most intriguing ones a writer can play with, I think, because they don't just change the character but the way the character sees everything else. For instance, a character is betrayed. Before the betrayal they were perfectly happy; afterwards, they have just a hint of paranoia because they know it's a possibility that it could happen again. That then colours their every view, every decision, every action... it's interesting to pick apart and analyse.
That smilie = SRS WIN.
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Post subject: Re: Freedom - Talk of Treason Posted: June 30th, 2011, 2:16 pm |
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Several situations where I might possibly imagine him crying…
~ He finds out everyone is escaping, he’s basically lost the war, and is about to die violently and sickeningly! (Lucius dying might be a bit of a waste of a good villain, but you never know )
~ Gets taken as a prisoner onto the surface and is kept in a massive iron cage and poked with a stick all the live long day (I have actually imagined this situation, minus the stick, as a plot possibility! )
~ Whilst in his cage, he tries to persuade Gardenia to help him escape, and when she refuses he realizes he loves her, bless ‘im, but it’s too dang late now! (I know, this is me daydreaming. Even if Lucius didn't have a romantic relevation this would be an AWESOME scene! =D I’ve imagined Gardenia crying in this scene and then running off, leaving Lucius sitting like a lemon in his cage!) It would be a real shift in power, Lucius asking Gardenia for help, instead of her being willing to do anything for him.
We once had a Harry Potter spoof spam thread, good times, my friend
Alexander and Gardenia are both charries who have undergone changes due to events in their pasts. Gardenia met Lucius, Alexander got arrested, etc. =)
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Post subject: Re: Freedom - Talk of Treason Posted: June 30th, 2011, 3:30 pm |
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He's not that kind of person, I don't think. Anger, I could see that. Uncontrollable rage? Sure. Tears? Naaaaaaaah. Sad as it is.
"Leaving Lucius sitting like a lemon in a cage..."
Two things to say about this: one, the mental image is hilarious, two, do lemons have a habit of sitting in cages or is it just me?
Sounds like fun.
Alexander nearly died, too. That's got to do something to the mind, eh? I think it would irritate me if he came out of the other side of that as exactly the same person. It just wouldn't seem right.
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Post subject: Re: Freedom - Talk of Treason Posted: June 30th, 2011, 3:39 pm |
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Ahaaaaa, but what about tears of anger? I can just imagining him sitting there, when suddenly a droplet of liquid suddenly spurts out of his eye, and he screams “WHAT is this? Some form of poisonous acid? Blood? No, heaven help me, it’s a tear!” But yeah, he’s really not the crying sort, I agree
“Like a lemon” is just a funny phrase, I can’t remember where I got it from Basically it means you’re just hanging around somewhere like a total dork.
But anyway, all randomness aside, the cage scene is one that would be great to see. I can envisage it happening at night time, and Gardenia creeping up to see Lucius, and he immediately expects her to do as he says and help him – but he totally can’t predict the way her loyalties have changed, and in fact she just came to remind herself of all the terrible things she’s done because of the way she felt about him, not to free him. Her feelings for Lucius have consumed so many years of her life, and one day she'll realize that she gave so much of her life to him for so little in return, and she ended up becoming a worse person because of him.
Gardenia’s “redemption” will be fun to watch progress. Because sure, she’ll regret her various evil acts, but she won’t change into a completely different person. She’ll probably still be sort of arrogant, and kind of intolerant of those she doesn’t like. What I love about Gardenia is that she isn't instantly likeable, but she's human!
Near-death experiences are always life-changing, aren’t they? Aw, I can’t imagine Alexander as anything else but his sweet, paranoid self.
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Post subject: Re: Freedom - Talk of Treason Posted: July 1st, 2011, 5:38 am |
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I dohn't think I can even really see that... it doesn't really suit his type. As a man of power he's purged all emotion in pursuit of his dream of domination... any feelings he might have had, annoying moral grievances etc would only have held him back on his way there, he couldn't have that. It's why he's so suited to the work he does: there is no trace of doubt that what he's doing is right for him, no niggling feeling that says hurting others to advance himself is wrong. In his eyes they're all necessary sacrifices and that's simply it.
I love that phrase... I've heard it before but I've absolutely no idea where.
I would actually love that to go ahead in the future. It's have to be waaaaaaay in the future but still, I think it's worth thinking about.
The scene with Gardenia sound spectacular but there's even more opportunity in it. Each character who has opposed him - or not, as the case may be - will have a chance to speak to/insult him unless they, er, die. I could imagine Alexander's reaction to that, perhaps apathy... after everything they went through to save the world, the guy who tried to hold them all prisoner simply wasn't worth it. I don't think his existence would interest Alexander after that.
Adrianna... now that's an entirely different matter. I think she'd avoid him purposely because she'd still be afraid of him. Silly girl.
Methinks I shall quite enjoy Gardenia's redemption, though. Her character is interesting, even if she isn't morally sound.
Ahahaha, me neither. I think he's quite in need of a councellor of some sort...
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Post subject: Re: Freedom - Talk of Treason Posted: July 4th, 2011, 4:07 pm |
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Post subject: Re: Freedom - Talk of Treason Posted: August 3rd, 2011, 2:25 pm |
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Apologies for the double post! =) Will, I only just noticed your reply to Freedom, and I looooved it! Absolutely brilliant =D I can't wait to reply, and write up Allegra's reaction to Dylan's explanation about Adrianna! =D
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Post subject: Re: Freedom - Talk of Treason Posted: August 4th, 2011, 2:08 pm |
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Post subject: Re: Freedom - Talk of Treason Posted: August 7th, 2011, 9:54 am |
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Great post Darky! I really love Adrianna's reaction to this all! And I wonder what her real motive actually is for saving Dylan. I'm also interested how she will behave in his presence as he is the only one who can 'save' her from Allegra, whom she fears and depises..  As I already said to Goldy, I'm very pleased how the whole plot turned out and I think there are still plenty of challenges for them to face. But lets start with what they will do now..? Will Allegra let Adrianna go any time soon? Will Dylan have to stay in Allegra's house forever? Or are they going to figure out a plan to make Lucius fall? That will be Dylan's priority.. _________________
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