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Post subject: Posted: November 27th, 2005, 7:48 pm |
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The story is a sad one, but in the end I guss it does have a happy ending, because Celebrian and Elrond are reunited, but sadly Arwen is not. So, to me it is a sad-happy ending, if you follow me.
Btw, don't worry about your English hun, it's just fine!
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Post subject: Posted: November 28th, 2005, 5:14 pm |
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Elwing, Celebrian's story is in the timeline in the appendices. But I found it somewhere over a year or two of idle browsing. Huge they are! Huge!
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Post subject: Posted: November 29th, 2005, 7:52 pm |
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Yes, the appendices are really big, but very interesting. I always found Celebrian's story very, very sad.
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Post subject: Posted: November 30th, 2005, 5:46 pm |
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Oh, the Appendices. You should have told me that!! I think I've seen it there before.
Celebrian's story has a bittersweet ending, because the family is reunited except for Arwen.
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Post subject: Posted: December 7th, 2005, 2:25 am |
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Yeh it is a sad story.Isn't it Only celebrian and elrond are united with out there children in the end?.*sorry if i'm spoiling it for anyone*
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Post subject: Posted: December 7th, 2005, 5:16 am |
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Elwing_Star_Spray wrote: Ok, I'm sitting here with The Return of the King in my hands. I'm opening to the Appendixes......I'm trying to type with one hand....I'm looking........I can't find anything about Celebrian in the Appendixes of the Return of the King. Sorry guys. Arrghh, Elwing I was waiting on the edge of my seat for your post!!! Anyway, can anybody fill me in, what are we trying to find in the appendices? The story of CelebrÃan?
I found this on EoA in the entry for Elladan:
"Many centuries later, the twins' mother CelebrÃan went on a journey into the south to visit her own mother, Galadriel, in the land of Lórien. In the Redhorn Pass, she was captured by orcs, and tortured in their dens. Elladan rode with his brother to rescue her, but by the time they reached her she had received a poisonous wound. Though their father healed her, she would not remain in Middle-earth, and sailed into the West the following year. After this loss, Elladan and his brother Elrohir were filled with hatred of the orcs, often riding against them with the Northern Dúnedain."
"After the War of the Ring, little is known of the brothers' fate. They returned to their father's house at Rivendell, and remained there even after he had passed across the Sea. Like their sister Arwen, the sons of Elrond Half-elven were granted the choice of whether to leave Middle-earth for the Undying Lands, or remain there and become Mortal as Men. Elladan had such a bond with his brother that they must surely have chosen alike, but what choice they made in the end can never now be known. "
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Post subject: Posted: December 7th, 2005, 7:23 pm |
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Eä wrote: Arrghh, Elwing I was waiting on the edge of my seat for your post!!!
Sorry. I'll look in the timelines........Aha! In 2509, Celebrian was on her way to Lothlorien when she was attacked by Orcs and received a poisened wound. In 2510, she departed over the Sea.
So there you go!!I found something!
_________________ And she was named Elwing,which is Star-spray,for she was born on a night of stars,whose light glittered in the spray of the waterfall of Lanthir Lamath beside her father's house.
Banners by Arwen. Thank you so much, Arwen!
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Post subject: Posted: December 14th, 2005, 4:08 pm |
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Sad. very sad, but in a way happy too, i mean at least they were reunited.
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Post subject: Posted: December 14th, 2005, 5:55 pm |
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I think I read somewhere that Elladan and Elrohir both chose to become mortal, although for different reasons than Arwen's. But I might be wrong.
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Post subject: Posted: December 14th, 2005, 10:33 pm |
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Thats really interesting Miri. I think I'll go research that more, although I doubt I'll find a direct answer.
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Post subject: Posted: December 21st, 2005, 5:25 pm |
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Ya, I did I think, too. I think they wanted to stay because they wanted to live as mortals or something.......dunno if that's right..
_________________ And she was named Elwing,which is Star-spray,for she was born on a night of stars,whose light glittered in the spray of the waterfall of Lanthir Lamath beside her father's house.
Banners by Arwen. Thank you so much, Arwen!
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Post subject: Posted: December 29th, 2005, 12:03 pm |
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They could have reasons of their own, not applying to Arwen.
_________________ And she was named Elwing,which is Star-spray,for she was born on a night of stars,whose light glittered in the spray of the waterfall of Lanthir Lamath beside her father's house.
Banners by Arwen. Thank you so much, Arwen!
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Post subject: Posted: December 29th, 2005, 9:58 pm |
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Here's my opinion/theory:
Elladen and Elrohir may have decided to stay in Middle-earth for their own reasons, not having anything to do with Arwen. Maybe it did.But for whatever reason, they stayed because something that meant they had to stay was there.
Anyone follow that? I think I'm confusing myself.
_________________ And she was named Elwing,which is Star-spray,for she was born on a night of stars,whose light glittered in the spray of the waterfall of Lanthir Lamath beside her father's house.
Banners by Arwen. Thank you so much, Arwen!
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Post subject: Posted: December 29th, 2005, 10:34 pm |
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Joined: 12 June 2005 Posts: 687 Location: Lórien (Connecticut)
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That might be it Elwing. All I conclude is that Elladan and Elrohir chose to stay in Middle-earth for a reason other than love.
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