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Post subject: Posted: May 28th, 2006, 7:54 pm |
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AND he only stopped cos aragorn was going to take out his sword
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Post subject: Posted: May 29th, 2006, 7:29 am |
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I don't think that Boromir saw this! Or at least I never thought that Boromir only stopped because of Aragorn drawing his sword...
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Post subject: Posted: May 29th, 2006, 4:18 pm |
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i think he did tho, cos he was glancing downwards towards aragorns sword
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Post subject: Posted: May 29th, 2006, 7:44 pm |
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well I think that Borimir was a really nice guy until he was alone with Frodo in that forest... but otherwise he's pretty darn cool... and hott!!!
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Post subject: Posted: May 29th, 2006, 7:45 pm |
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i agreee with Ra'nawen!!!
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Post subject: Posted: May 29th, 2006, 7:52 pm |
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^LOL you two ... you're like twins!
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Post subject: Posted: May 30th, 2006, 1:54 pm |
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Haldir o Lórien wrote: i think he did tho, cos he was glancing downwards towards aragorns sword
I always thought he was looking at Frodo... Maybe I misunderstood this whole scene!
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Post subject: Posted: May 30th, 2006, 5:42 pm |
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nahhh i think he saw both frodo, and aragorn's sword ... but no! you didnt misunderstand the whole scene ... it wasnt that important of a part anyway compared to the rest of the movie
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Post subject: Posted: May 31st, 2006, 1:23 pm |
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I personally love Boromir.
He really did want the best for everyone, he was just a little confused and corrupted by the ring (stupid ring ). His heart was not as strong as the others but, Denethor put the idea in his head that the ring could help Gondor and he believed it because he wanted to help his people.
After the incident at Amon Hen, he realized that the ring was not the answer, though it was too late. Then he gave his life to save Merry and Pippin so clearly he was not as bad as everyone made him out to be. He was an honorable warrior who cared tremendously for those he swore to protect.
(I could go on forever.)
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Post subject: Posted: May 31st, 2006, 11:51 pm |
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yep yep, nicely put Lady Rinoa
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Post subject: Posted: June 2nd, 2006, 5:47 am |
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I also think that Boromir only stopped because Aragorn took his sword, but I also think that it's not that important, it's just a little detail.
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Post subject: Posted: June 2nd, 2006, 7:17 pm |
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yeah ... it wasnt that important but its nice to know that Boromir was THAT easily intimidated by things like that and the Ring
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Post subject: Posted: June 3rd, 2006, 3:19 am |
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i dont think Boromir was weak in the physical section but in the mental, YES! didnt you guys see how we couldnt resist the power of the Ring? he was very strong, but mentally VERY weak! thats what i think and no offense to Boromir-fans!!!
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Post subject: Posted: June 3rd, 2006, 3:55 am |
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Mentally effected it is true but not by the ring by his father's demands. Very strong indeed. Elensar, if this is how you think about it, this is what you are gonna write it down, then. It is an open discussion for every people who wanna discuss about the matter.
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Post subject: Posted: June 3rd, 2006, 12:24 pm |
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*agrees* I don't think he was mentally weak.. I think he did it all because of his father (as I've posted it before..) and physically he was very strong of course.
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Post subject: Boromir's masculine soul.... Posted: June 4th, 2006, 5:40 am |
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Some of Boromir's weakness and the reason he acted the way he did I believe have to do with him being male.
I had two little boys (and was also a little boy) and, as anyone who has had little boys, I know that they are up for adventure, danger, being powerful/aggressive……these things are a part of the masculine design from birth, they are hardwired for it.
You don’t have to live on this planet long to realize that girls are not like that. Just lead a youth group for a while!
You don’t have to tell a boy to explore, build or conquer because that is his built in purpose. So I feel the motives of every male in the cast of LotR would be effected by this on some level. But just because all males are the same in gender doesn’t mean they are the same in strengths, weaknesses, interests, ability, etc. (Conquering in battle is much different than conquering a difficult composition of music…) That leaves for a very wide masculine response to the Ring throughout the books depending on the character.
So I think we could say that Boromir's desire to use the Ring comes partly from his masculine soul. Like Vikingmaiden has brought up in another forum on Boromir, as a man he wants to be recognized for doing something great, he wants the affirmation of comrades. He wants to conquer and win. (Just like all little boys!)
It is true, Galadriel struggled with the ring too but from my experience and understanding I would say that it was for different reasons. If you read it, it is more about her being beautiful and fair beyond comparison, where she finishes with, “All shall love me and despair!”
Not quite what you would expect Boromir to ever say!
And so instead of putting all the blame on Boromir’s pride and other weaknesses I think we should seek to understand him in some way also through the perspective of his masculinity.
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