Aragorn and Arwen are meant to be, there's no stopping it, as Elrond foud out the hard way.

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Okay I'm just going to jump in here and be anti Arwen/Aragorn. =P

You guys say that Arwen "truly loved" Aragorn. But wait a minute, read the appendices... she only likes him AFTER she finds out he's a king to be. Gold sniffer? And then she just sits at home waiting. I thought she truly loved him! Does true love sit around waiting for the guy to become king before you'll marry him? No! If she loved him for the man he was not the king he would become then she wouldn't have wanted to wait. Example:Luthien. Even a cage couldn't hold her back!! I hate the comparison of her to Arwen. I mean all Arwen did was sit at home and sew a banner.

Sorry guys, I just really don't like Arwen. Refute me! I've got more! lol

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I like the way the story plays out, and I like Arwen. But like you said there was no true love. So i really can't decide.

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I disagree. She is not a "gold sniffer." Think about it. If you read the appendices, you'll find that Elessar is actually <i>below</i> her. She is "the noblest and fairest that now walks the earth." It's Elrond that encourages to Aragron to become king, because if his daughter is going to die, he wants her to die for someone who is going to be all he can be. Yes. We compare Arwen to Luthien. Why? Because she died. It takes someone incredibly strong to die for the person he/she loves. Elves are NOT SUPPOSED TO DIE. They are "not born to die, whom age nor disease could touch." You don't have to put a sword in Arwen's hand to make her strong. The fact that she gives up her immortality for Aragorn already proves it.

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Oh, your right to. Hmm, I really can't decide. But that is sorta refering to her looks.

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^What is referring to whose looks?

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Well it kinda is.

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Concerning the words "love triangle", in the book it was not a love triangle. Tolkien wrote it out perfectly. Only in the movie do you see the "Eowyn versus Arwen" stuff. Miriel not like.

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I think the A/A version is the best because later Eowyn falls in love with Faramir... it fits perfectly... because so they found each of them there one love!!

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It's interesting that you should bring Aragorn's role up. I think he does a lot more "swaying" of Eowyn's emotions in the TTT movie, however, it is true that treats her like more than an aquiantance in the books as well. Although, she does make her sentiments known, I would have expected Aragorn to make known his own a bit better.

I think Aragorn and Arwen deserve eachother, their love is pure and as Larael said they made sacrifices for eachother, so in which they could be together. However seeing Aragorn with Eowyn, would have also been nice. They certainly had a chemistry.

Eowyn definately had feelings for Aragorn, but perhaps that was because he could have taken her away from her holds in Rohan..she desired to be free, but how long would that have lasted?--if Aragorn had given her what she seeked, that is.

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Yes!!! Someone else who doesn't like Arwen! I feel happy now. lol Well, I've always has a problem with people who saw that Eowyn only loves Aragorn's power. Eowyn is the niece of the King of Rohan! She is, in fact, a princess. Theoden said that she should rule in his place if he failed to return. She has just as much power as Aragorn does! And yes, I'm an A/E shipper.

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I think Arwen and Aragorn were a perfect match. All in all, they weren't that different. They both had strength. Aragorn's strength showed it's self physically while Arwen's strength was emotional. They both sacrificed so much for love. Arwen gave up her family and immortality for Aragorn. Aragorn fought many battles to make sure Arwen(and the rest of the world for that matter) was safe.

When it comes to Eowyn, I must say agree in a sense with both sides. I believe she felt trapped where she was. When she met Aragorn she saw the strength and freedom that she thought he had. She saw a life of valor and renown. I believe she saw in Aragorn the life she wanted so she convinced herself that she'd fellan in love with Aragorn, when really she'd fallen in love with an idea, a fantasy.

I think Aragorn might have had feelings for Eowyn because he saw a pain in her that he identified with. He knew what it was like to lose people he cared about. He knew what it was like to feel defined by how people see you and not by who you are.

As far was Arwen just waiting for Aragorn to be king before she married him, I'd have to disagree. I don't think it would have been the best judgment on either of their parts had they gotten married before he became king. The road to get to be king was hard and dangerous. He was moving around and on the run. I highly doubt that Aragorn would have let Arwen marry into that. He cared about her.

Ok, there's my two sense worth.

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You have a point when you say that Eowyn has power, but her power is nothing to Aragorn's. The comparison of Gondor to Rohan is extremely unfavourable to Rohan. Even Aragorn's blood is superior: he is of the Dúnedain, she is royal, yes, but an normal human otherwise.

And ElfishGirl, Aragorn made his lineage known to Arwen when he first introduced himself, as you will have seen in Appendix A. What you also will have seen is that Elrond, not long after, makes this point: Arwen is of higher lineage than Aragorn. Arwen was not a 'Gold sniffer' as you put it, but the daughter of probably the most important elf in Middle-earth, and lowering herself considerably to attach herself to one whose only inheritance was hanging by a thread. The Appendix also states that she remained in Rivandell, watching over him in thought, and also made a 'great and kingly standard', which you commented on. Firstly, in those days women were not involved in war, and she would have been a mere hinderance to Aragorn, as he tracked Merry and Pippin and walked the Paths of the Dead. Secondly, the banner she 'sewed' would have been a great political statement, for friends and foes alike. Appendix A states: '...and in hope she (Arwen) made for him (Aragorn) a great and kingly standard, such as only one might display who claimed the lordship of the Numenoreans and the inheritance of Elendil.' She may have been a great advantage to Aragorn's cause sewing that banner. Furthermore, the comparison of Arwen and Luthien is not made on the basis that one ran further than the other, but because they both gave their immortality to live one life with those they loved. There was plenty of peer pressure on both of them, also. They must have been strongly decided.

Personally I am in favor of the A/A match. Though it is hard for us to understand, Arwen broke a huge cultural barrier in marrying Aragorn. She also broke away from eternal life, and contact with her friends and family.

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I would most definitely say without a doubt that I think Aragorn and Arwen are perfect couple and that Eowyn is MUCH better off with Faramir. At first, I did not like Eowyn at all (or the way that she was played by Miranda Otto) because I thought that she was almost too much of a flirt. She knew Aragorn was taken, and yet she still pursued him. Nowadays, of course, I love Eowyn. And besides--I bet all of us girls have tried to get a guy that was taken at least once before in our lives

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