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 Post subject: Re: Bots
PostPosted: November 2nd, 2017, 7:36 am 
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I think our semi-human ‘Write My Essay’s spambot is back. They give it a good try, looking like they copy/paste something in a few posts in random dormant threads. Anyway, they not only learned to capitalize, they got a believable name this time. Now for them to put a space in the next one.

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 Post subject: Re: Bots
PostPosted: November 2nd, 2017, 3:59 pm 
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..... but do they use the Oxford comma?

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 Post subject: Re: Bots
PostPosted: November 13th, 2017, 6:17 pm 
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Lol. Oxford comma... Oh the debate of many a writers. :P

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 Post subject: Re: Bots
PostPosted: November 14th, 2017, 2:12 pm 
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After checking Wiki, I can state that I definitely do not use the Oxford, or serial, comma. Odd that something thus termed is used more often in the US, but then anyone from the US having the slightest knowledge of such a possible sticking point (probably in the ppm range, and until today including myself) would probably know it as Harvard comma … :speech:

But then it is of little use in recognizing bots, I must assume. :-(

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 Post subject: Re: Bots
PostPosted: November 15th, 2017, 10:41 am 
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I thought commas were always used where a pause would be in speaking the sentence, no matter what town or university or country one is in.

And for the record, this 'essay' bot has now shown up on Open Scrolls. :grr:

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 Post subject: Re: Bots
PostPosted: November 15th, 2017, 11:52 am 
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If the written comma is the equivalent of a pause when speaking, then I hypothesize that the comma is pronounced “ahm”. But then what would the filler “youknow” (or “y’know”) be the equivalent of in written punctuation? (Very often, my spontaneous response would / should be “no, I do not know, please explain yourself!”)

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 Post subject: Re: Bots
PostPosted: November 15th, 2017, 11:04 pm 
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Placing a comma at the point in a sentence where a natural pause would occur when reading it aloud, is one explanation for its grammatical usage. However, commas are also used to separate words in a list, or to assist with comprehension of a text.

In the following example: I bought potatoes, peas, and carrots - each vegetable is being treated as a separate entity, and a comma has been placed after peas to keep them from mixing inappropriately with the carrots. The 'after-the-peas' comma is the infamous "Oxford" comma.

Alas, the 'Oxford' comma seems to have fallen by the wayside these days. Its life remains in the hands of a grammar-obsessed former insurance contract writers, for whom a missing comma, or a misplaced comma, can cause varying degrees of angst.

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 Post subject: Re: Bots
PostPosted: November 16th, 2017, 2:39 am 
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Well, I'm a dedicated user of the "oxford" comma, as there is a natural pause before 'and'.
in the days of illiterate TWITter thumb typers, I'm not surprised it, and so much more, has fallen awayfrom use.

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 Post subject: Re: Bots
PostPosted: November 16th, 2017, 10:29 pm 
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Hanasian wrote:
Well, I'm a dedicated user of the "oxford" comma, as there is a natural pause before 'and'.

In the days of illiterate TWITter thumb typers, I'm not surprised it, and so much more, has fallen awayfrom use.

Bless you, sirrah! We stand amongst the mighty ...... grammarians, that is. :yes:

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 Post subject: Re: Bots
PostPosted: November 17th, 2017, 4:23 pm 
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*scratches head* :erm:

Lemme see, E~S was in Kiwiland for a while, and now resides in BC. Hanasían emigrated from Washington State to Straya. Should this more correctly be called the Pacific comma? For me, my “mare nostrum” is the Atlantic – after ten years of Indian Ocean, more correctly the sub-ocean called the Arabian Sea, in Karachi and Bombay. Don’t remember a single comment on punctuation, never mind commas, during my nine years of US schooling, including two years of college, divided between New York and New Hampshire. And I went to a Catholic school for grades 6 to 8 (which was the end of the line, so I guess a grade school), where we learned sentence diagrams with a vengeance. When I mentioned that to my English teacher (an M.A.) in 9th grade (after we had moved to Long Island), he paused, mumbled something about vague memories from college, and changed the subject (actually back, as my mentioning the sentence diagrams had been the original digression). SAT-E 750, achievements test 770, both 99 percentile of college-bound in 1972/73, so I can claim some official confirmation of competency of that Anglo-Saxon / Norman French mélange spoken on the western shore of the North Atlantic. :flex: :yeahright:

But to repeat my above nag, this comma does not help us in identifying bots. :annoyed2:

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 Post subject: Re: Bots
PostPosted: November 23rd, 2017, 12:45 am 
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Lol I tend to use the commanas well. (Unless my writing gets hasty) It just seems off without it.

But as Gandolorin has rightly pointed out... comma or no comma... bots still roam. :p

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 Post subject: Re: Bots
PostPosted: November 24th, 2017, 2:25 am 
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At leas cyberops was polite enough to go directly to the website forum and post their ad.

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