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Author:  Aramel Elyanwe [ May 4th, 2007, 8:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Stealing Banners...
I've noticed that a few people on here have been 'taking' banners from people. I've seen a few ones dedicated to me that have just appeared in some people's signatures, and they didn't ask me for premission to use them. This is annoying me because it feels like banners I claimed and requested are being stolen without my consent to use them. I'm not the only one who this has been happening to; I've seen some other banners dedicated to specific people in these members' siggys. I don't know if they asked to use them, but they certainly did not ask me if it was okay.

Personally, I consider this stealing. The banners were taken without my consent and I'm not sure I want them being used without me knowing. :(
Author:  Dark, Queen of Angmar [ May 5th, 2007, 11:21 am ]
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yeah, someone used the Jack Sparrow banner i got from Arweb, it kind of irked me, but i didn't bother to PM them or anything... And yes, it would be nice if people asked to use banners... because really, they are the person's property... kind of.
Author:  Eä [ May 5th, 2007, 2:09 pm ]
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I don't know what banners people were using, but Arwen puts all her banners on the main site with a note saying they are for everyone to use. Many of the banners on the site are old so the people who had them dedicated might not even be active here anymore or might be using other banners now.
I haven't noticed if it happened with new banners and dedications, at least I haven't had it happening to me, but I *never* change by banners anyway... :P
Author:  Johnny's Fan [ May 5th, 2007, 2:33 pm ]
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Hmm...yes....well I can understand how you feel, and I do believe people have used banners that were dedicated to be by Arwen before now....but to perfectly honest I don't mind this. As Ea said, Arwen has put all the banners she has ever made for claims on AU and she has said people can use them. So personally, I'm pretty happy if someone uses a banner dedicated to me, as it's almost a compliment.

I don't really consider Arwen's banners that she makes and then stamps with a username as "my own my precious" as I know there is a pretty good chance people who either wanted it from the claim but were too late, will use it elsewhere or people just passing through will use it. We can't all keep tabs on people who use these banners, nor can the people who would like to use a "Johnny's Fan" banner, sign up for the forum, seek me out and ask my permission. ;)
Author:  smeagollum [ May 5th, 2007, 2:49 pm ]
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I agree with you Johnny.

I have only had one annoying time. I made a banner that I was using, and someone else was using it at the same time. I just thought it was kind of odd, so I PMed them about it to say that it was alright to use it, but I would really like them to ask first.

The weird thing is that they asked someone else, and that person told me they could. That irritated me.
Author:  Eä [ May 5th, 2007, 4:05 pm ]
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Well said JF.
Arwen made my banner.. it has a dedication on it, and since I've been using it for quite a long time it would be strange to see another member with the same banner... but I know it could happen when I claimed from teh webmaster.
Now, if I had made the banner (don't worry, it will never happen)... I might want people to ask me to use it since any graphics I make would be mine with copyrights... but I would be very flattered that people wanted to use it so I would of course allow it!! But as I said... I don't know how people feel if they actually do make banners! :angel:
Author:  Elenthari [ May 5th, 2007, 4:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stealing Banners...
Aramel Elyanwë wrote:
I've noticed that a few people on here have been 'taking' banners from people. I've seen a few ones dedicated to me that have just appeared in some people's signatures, and they didn't ask me for premission to use them. This is annoying me because it feels like banners I claimed and requested are being stolen without my consent to use them. I'm not the only one who this has been happening to; I've seen some other banners dedicated to specific people in these members' siggys. I don't know if they asked to use them, but they certainly did not ask me if it was okay.

Personally, I consider this stealing. The banners were taken without my consent and I'm not sure I want them being used without me knowing. :(

You have right Aramel!It isn't fair to use another banner from other A-U member!That with the PM-system is very good idea!
Author:  Aramel Elyanwe [ May 5th, 2007, 4:14 pm ]
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I wasn't just talking about Arwen's banners; I've also seen one that I personally requested being used without me knowing. :annoyed2:
Author:  Elenthari [ May 5th, 2007, 4:17 pm ]
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^Did I took some of yours...I have soo many pictures in my computer...If I did sorry! :duh: :confused2:
Author:  Envied Alexander [ May 5th, 2007, 4:32 pm ]
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The same person using Darkeh's banner is also using mine. You wouldn't know it though, because it is dedicated to my old name, Lilliana Sparrow.

It didn't bother me. I actually found it comical.
Author:  Nessameldë [ May 5th, 2007, 4:50 pm ]
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I've made an avy for one of my rpg character and once as I was wandering on some forum I saw it for an other character... At first, I felt so angry! Because well, I've been using it for many many months and I've made it on purpose for this character and no other!
Then I've calm down and I just thought it was a bit flattering because after all, it meant that it was a success! :cool: LOL!
Author:  Eä [ May 5th, 2007, 5:10 pm ]
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Yeah, it must be flattering Nessameldë.... but I also think people should pay more respect to other peoples work...
Same thing with DeviantArt, Photobucket accounts and other graphics sites... people tend to borrow a lot from those... because it so easy... but it doesn't make it right.. (though I might fall for it too, if I didn't think about it).

[Wonderful Padme set, Nessameldë :-)]
Author:  Johnny's Fan [ May 5th, 2007, 5:40 pm ]
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Ah, right. Well I don't think I was the only one to believe we were talking about Arwen's banners. ;)

If we are talking about banners made for you in claims threads or requsts made for you, then yes I can agree with you ...... unless the graphics maker has given that person premission, as technically it is their work as well as your banner. I've had people ask in the past can they use a banner/avatar I made for someone else, and I have said "yes" as long as they don't use it when the person it was made for is using it.

Perhaps graphics makers should make a rule on their threads - do not use banner made for other people unless you ask first
Author:  Aramel Elyanwe [ May 5th, 2007, 5:44 pm ]
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That would be a good idea, JF. Maybe I just feel protective of my 'property', but still, asking would be better than just taking without consent. :yes:
Author:  Antigone [ May 5th, 2007, 5:50 pm ]
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Put a big copyright notice on your graphic(s). Makes them (nearly) impossible to steal but also quite ugly :P.
Author:  Gwenneth [ May 5th, 2007, 6:33 pm ]
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I totally get you, Aramel. This has never happened to me, but I would be upset. Firstly, because they never even asked me, and secondly, because now I don't get to use it! I mean, I could, but it wouldn't be new and pretty.
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