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Author:  Galadhrim_arrow [ May 5th, 2006, 10:16 pm ]
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Whenever I see the part where Frodo tells sam to "Go home" I get so mad at Peter Jackson! That scene was out of feel for the movie and out of character. Not true to the book either. :closedeyes:
Author:  Lady Erana [ May 6th, 2006, 9:26 am ]
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Yes, i didn't quite understand why PJ has done it until now. This is one scene where I really like to leave the room and shout! :annoyed2: :grr: :sly:
Author:  Winniepig [ May 6th, 2006, 12:19 pm ]
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Well... I suppose it also shows the strain on their relationship during the journey, and the strain the Ring causes on their friendship...
I mean, if the Ring got Frodo to carry on alone, it's more likely to return to its master.
I guess I <i>was</i> shocked though.
I was like, "NO FRODO, NOOOOO."
But the fact that it was unexpected because it didn't happen in the book isn't necessarily a bad thing...
AND it increases Gollum's treachery

That's my POV, anyway :D
Author:  Galadhrim_arrow [ May 6th, 2006, 5:58 pm ]
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I suppose it was a scene for the people who didn't read the book.
Author:  vikingmaiden [ May 6th, 2006, 6:35 pm ]
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I did not really care for that part either--I think it rather belittled Frodo and Sam's immensely deep friendship, but whatever. I think mainly it was because a film is different from a book, and that scene would cause tension for the audience, making the movie more dramatic.
Author:  Ardhoniel [ May 6th, 2006, 8:41 pm ]
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I think it might have been mainly for the non-book-readers, becuase it IS much harder to convey feelings in movies - i nthe book we can TELL that the Ring is taking it's toll on Frodo, but it's harder for peopl to understand that on the screen. I have to admit, i was horrifyed when i saw that though! I was like OMG FRODO NO!
Author:  Fíriel_18190 [ May 10th, 2006, 4:00 pm ]
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I don't like the scene as well and I don't any sense in adding it, I mean the readers of LotR understood the story without that scene didn't they?
Author:  Galadhrim_arrow [ May 10th, 2006, 6:25 pm ]
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No sense. Yeah, my thoughts exactly. I have to grumble every time it enters my mind!
Author:  Larael [ May 13th, 2006, 7:30 pm ]
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I too am not fond of that part in the movie for various reasons. [a] Because Frodo's behaviour was so unlike how he usually acts, and [b] Because I felt that it was a rather harsh thing to say to someone who has been your friend for so long.

I guess it was necessary though, because it does show that the Ring effects the people close to the Ringbearer in terrible ways.
Author:  Existential Genius [ May 22nd, 2006, 9:25 pm ]
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It's a tension builder. There wasn't enough happening in the movie during that time, so they had to add something to keep audiences glued to the boob-tube!
It twists the plot and makes the observer think: OMG! What's going to happen now?!?!
It builds tension between Frodo, Gollum, and the Ring, which leads to Shelobs' tunnels where Sam makes his heroic entrance.

Without Frodo telling Sam to go home (when they are on the 'Welcome' mat of Saurons' home) there isn't that tension, adventur, and interesting twist that keeps ones audiences in there seats and not falling asleep. :drool:
Author:  Fíriel_18190 [ May 23rd, 2006, 10:16 am ]
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I don't think that the audience would have fallen asleep if the scene had been taken out. The book is exciting wnough without that scene. At that time the story is exciting enough I think.
Author:  Linwe [ May 23rd, 2006, 12:30 pm ]
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Yeah I didn't really get that part. Of course, in the movie, Frodo was acting on Gollum's (and maybe the Ring's) influence, but as for Gollum, I don't think he could have thought of something like this... Of course, he was very nasty, but I don't think he would have been able to make such plans. And as for Frodo (the one in the book), he's not stupid enough to fall for Gollum's lies and cares too much about Sam to let him go.
Author:  Taurquende [ May 26th, 2006, 3:34 am ]
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I don't really mind it all that much, personally.

Ardhoniel wrote:
I think it might have been mainly for the non-book-readers, becuase it IS much harder to convey feelings in movies - i nthe book we can TELL that the Ring is taking it's toll on Frodo, but it's harder for peopl to understand that on the screen.


I agree with you. That's the hardest part about books to movies. The scene itself was deeply moving to me. I have been in Sam's place, when someone I thought was my friend competely turned on me for some unknown reason.
Author:  Darrell [ May 26th, 2006, 12:40 pm ]
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I really dislike that scene. Being something of a Tolkien purist, any major deiviation like that makes me want to go and throw a brick through PJ's window^^ it's not like that part of the story is laking in action or interesting bits.

It doesn't make me as mad as the Frodo-Faramir-Osgiliath bit, that part makes me want to go watch something else. [I was going to write something intelligent, meaningful, important, and slightly witty here, but I've forgotten what it was :D ]
Author:  Teh FF [ May 28th, 2006, 7:29 am ]
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Well, I understand why PJ did it like that. It makes it so exciting to have Frodo going into Shelob's Lair alone. And it shows the evil influence of the ring.
Indeed it works, but still - every time I watch the scene, it's like: Frodo never would have done that. I just can't imagine him being that evil. He hasn't arrived at Mt. Doom yet, it's too early.
Author:  Fíriel_18190 [ May 28th, 2006, 9:17 am ]
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^
yes that's true, but I still think that this scene wasn't necessary.
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