that is so cool that there is gunna be a sequal i cant wait!!! i wonder what it would be about.

I just finished Angels and Demons last night....wow....thats all i can really say

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Solomon I'd presume! I think he was a very wise guy who built a posh temple, but I can't remeber anything else abiut him, except he had something to do with the ten commandments... *ponders*

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^Solomon... was a king of Israel, long after they came to the Promise land and even longer after they got the ten commandments.

As for The DaVinci Code.... It's fiction, sold in the fiction section.

EDIT: While, there may be several actual, historical facts, the theory is totally incorrect.

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^Agrees with go_spurs. I started reading it at the bookstore and got about 1/20 of the way done. I would have read more, but I had to go home. *Sigh*

The book is extremely interesting and well written, but Dan Brown passes from fact into fiction. Like go_spurs said, it is a fiction book, sold in the fiction section.

My dad and I were talking about it. He said that in the book there was an albino from opus dei named....uhhh, well it started with an "S" any way, my dad is a member of Opus Dei, and he is not an albino. In fact, he is african. I find that sort of ironic.

^Yeah, it's very well written, but Dan Brown makes either many mistakes, or just ignores things that are in the Bible because they disprove his theory

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Okay people. Let's NOT get into a debate here. I could get into the argument saying the Bible is fiction to some people, just as this novel is fiction. But I won't. This is a thread to discuss the book. Not discuss your personal feelings and thoughts. Everyone is going to have their own opinion.

I think Dan Brown's YEARS of RESEARCH shows that he's willing back up what he is saying. And yes, it's just a theory. And theories are just that, theories. How many theories are out there that people argue about? Let's not get into a debate saying his theory is wrong and another's is right. That's NOT what this thread is for.

This book is historical fiction. Yes. It's fiction, because underneath it all, it's just a story about Robert Langdon. If you actually look in the front of the book, he has a page explaining what is definately fact.

How many times do I have to say this, do NOT debate who's right, Dan Brown or the Bible. You have your beliefs, he has his, and I have mine. This is not the time nor the place for such discussion.

Dan Brown researched many THEORIES and FACTS surrounding this issue. Dan Brown didn't set out to write a novel saying he was right and that everyone should believe him. Remember, he's probably done a lot more research than any of us have or will ever do. I encourage you all to research this topic yourself and sort fact from fiction. If you think he's wrong, research it and come up with a FACT based argument. Don't just say that he's wrong because he is refuting the Bible. Seriously people.

Okay. Enough of my rant. (Though you just don't seem to understand)

And Naruiel, the albino monk's name was Silas.

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Okay guys, before this goes any further, I'm advising not to get into a religious debate because afterall religious debating is against the rules and we really don't want to close this thread, do we?. I've read the book and I know this book is centered around the Catholic church and religion but we must remember not to point fingers at each other of saying whos right and whos wrong.


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I'm not trying to start an argument or debate. I'm merely saying that he's missing things in his story.

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Ahhhhhhhhhhhh! Don't hurt me! I was mearly expressing my views on the topic! I don't want to debate and hurt anybody! I'm actually quite nice. (So if you hear rumors about me biting off people's heads, it is not true)

Speaking of Divinci Code on google there is this cool competition where you solve codes and stuff in pursuit of a major prize

there are 24 different tests and I have completed 23...

Anyways back to the topic...

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I haven't played the Google game, so I don't know if it's the same as the original. That was before it was made into a movie. It was AWESOME!!! It was hard...because you had to find the clues ON and IN the actual book itself. Intense man.

Anyways, as my 1000th post, I figured I should do something crazy. Okay, bad word. I found some stuff that might interest you about the disagreements many of us have been having. These questions were asked of Dan Brown, and here are a few I thought relevant:


HOW MUCH OF THIS NOVEL IS TRUE?
The Da Vinci Code is a novel and therefore a work of fiction. While the book's characters and their actions are obviously not real, the artwork, architecture, documents, and secret rituals depicted in this novel all exist (for example, Leonardo Da Vinci's paintings, the Gnostic Gospels, Hieros Gamos, etc.). These real elements are interpreted and debated by fictional characters. While it is my belief that some of the theories discussed by these characters may have merit, each individual reader must explore these characters' viewpoints and come to his or her own interpretations. My hope in writing this novel was that the story would serve as a catalyst and a springboard for people to discuss the important topics of faith, religion, and history.

BUT DOESN'T THE NOVEL'S "FACT" PAGE CLAIM THAT EVERY SINGLE WORD IN THIS NOVEL IS HISTORICAL FACT?
If you read the "FACT" page, you will see it clearly states that the documents, rituals, organization, artwork, and architecture in the novel all exist. The "FACT" page makes no statement whatsoever about any of the ancient theories discussed by fictional characters. Interpreting those ideas is left to the reader.

IS THIS BOOK ANTI-CHRISTIAN?
No. This book is not anti-anything. It's a novel. I wrote this story in an effort to explore certain aspects of Christian history that interest me. The vast majority of devout Christians understand this fact and consider The Da Vinci Code an entertaining story that promotes spiritual discussion and debate. Even so, a small but vocal group of individuals has proclaimed the story dangerous, heretical, and anti-Christian. While I regret having offended those individuals, I should mention that priests, nuns, and clergy contact me all the time to thank me for writing the novel. Many church officials are celebrating The Da Vinci Code because it has sparked renewed interest in important topics of faith and Christian history. It is important to remember that a reader does not have to agree with every word in the novel to use the book as a positive catalyst for introspection and exploration of our faith.

WHAT DO YOU THINK OF CLERICAL SCHOLARS ATTEMPTING TO "DISPROVE" THE DA VINCI CODE?
The dialogue is wonderful. These authors and I obviously disagree, but the debate that is being generated is a positive powerful force. The more vigorously we debate these topics, the better our understanding of our own spirituality. Controversy and dialogue are healthy for religion as a whole. Religion has only one true enemy--apathy--and passionate debate is a superb antidote.

PARTS OF THE DA VINCI CODE DESCRIBE THE ACTIVITIES OF THE RELIGIOUS GROUP OPUS DEI. HOW DOES OPUS DEI FEEL ABOUT YOUR NOVEL?
I worked very hard to create a fair and balanced depiction of Opus Dei. Even so, there may be those who are offended by the portrayal. While Opus Dei is a very positive force in the lives of many people, for others, affiliation with Opus Dei has been a profoundly negative experience. Their portrayal in the novel is based on numerous books written about Opus Dei as well as on my own personal interviews with current and former members.

SOME OF THE HISTORY IN THIS NOVEL CONTRADICTS WHAT I LEARNED IN SCHOOL. WHAT SHOULD I BELIEVE?
Since the beginning of recorded time, history has been written by the "winners" (those societies and belief systems that conquered and survived). Despite an obvious bias in this accounting method, we still measure the "historical accuracy" of a given concept by examining how well it concurs with our existing historical record. Many historians now believe (as do I) that in gauging the historical accuracy of a given concept, we should first ask ourselves a far deeper question: How historically accurate is history itself?

ARE YOU A CHRISTIAN?
Yes. Interestingly, if you ask three people what it means to be Christian, you will get three different answers. Some feel being baptized is sufficient. Others feel you must accept the Bible as absolute historical fact. Still others require a belief that all those who do not accept Christ as their personal savior are doomed to hell. Faith is a continuum, and we each fall on that line where we may. By attempting to rigidly classify ethereal concepts like faith, we end up debating semantics to the point where we entirely miss the obvious--that is, that we are all trying to decipher life's big mysteries, and we're each following our own paths of enlightenment. I consider myself a student of many religions. The more I learn, the more questions I have. For me, the spiritual quest will be a life-long work in progress.

THE TOPIC OF THIS NOVEL MIGHT BE CONSIDERED CONTROVERSIAL. DO YOU FEAR REPERCUSSIONS?
I can't imagine why. The ideas in this novel have been around for centuries; they are not my own. Admittedly, this may be the first time these ideas have been written about within the context of a popular thriller, but the information is anything but new. My hope for The Da Vinci Code was, in addition to entertaining people, that it might serve as an open door for readers to begin their own explorations and rekindle their interest in topics of faith.

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HAS ANYONE IN ORGANIZED RELIGION COME OUT IN SUPPORT OF YOUR NOVEL?
Yes, many people in organized religion have come out in support of this novel, and, of course, many have come out in opposition as well. The opposition generally comes from the strictest Christian thinkers who feel the idea of a "married Jesus" serves to undermine His divinity. While I don't agree with this interpretation, this is immaterial because the dialogue itself is a deeply empowering and positive force for everyone involved. Suddenly, enormous numbers of people are passionately debating important philosophical topics, and regardless of the personal conclusions that each of us draws, the debate can only help to strengthen our understanding of our own faith. Much of the positive response I get from within organized religion comes from nuns (who write to thank me for pointing out that they have sacrificed their entire lives to the Church and are still considered "unfit" to serve behind the altar). I have also heard from hundreds of enthusiastic priests. While many of them disagree with some of the ideas in the novel, they are thrilled that their parishioners are eager to discuss religion. Father John Sewell of St. John's Episcopal Church in Memphis stated it particularly eloquently in the press recently, saying: "This [novel] is not a threat. This is an opportunity. We are called to creatively engage the culture and this is what I want to do. I think Dan Brown has done me a favor. He's letting me talk about things that matter."

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(...this is a personal favourite... ...)
THIS NOVEL IS VERY EMPOWERING TO WOMEN. CAN YOU COMMENT?
Two thousand years ago, we lived in a world of Gods and Goddesses. Today, we live in a world solely of Gods. Women in most cultures have been stripped of their spiritual power. The novel touches on questions of how and why this shift occurred…and on what lessons we might learn from it regarding our future.


Here's the link to read more:
http://www.danbrown.com/novels/davinci_code/faqs.html

And I suggest you look around the site...you might find it interesting.

Hope you all found that enlightening. I've just been really frustrated lately with some things people have been saying about this great novel. *sigh* Oh well...I guess I'll always be part of a minority on this forum...but enough of my ranting!

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Yeah I've seen that before. Here's something interesting that gives another perspective of it particularly the judgement at the end.

http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Ch/2006/719.html

It's Dan Brown's trial over whether he copied Holy Blood Holy Grail.

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Hmmm... I really enjoyed the reading the Da Vinci Code for the history part of it. I got so caught up in it that for a while I thought the theory it presented was real, but of course then I realised that the book is fiction.

It was thoroughly interesting though, and I can't wait till the movie comes out.

^thats the same thing that happen to me--im going to see the movie opening night!!!!! im so excited

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I have a feeling that the movie won't be as great as the book. For one, the lines are cheesy, from what I've heard so far. And it seems to have little chemistry.

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