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PostPosted: March 26th, 2007, 6:04 pm 
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I know I just posted, but, look what I found in someone's sig?

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" They will tell stories about you."-Arya

Sound familiar, anyone?

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PostPosted: March 28th, 2007, 9:24 pm 


whatever....

*Eragon fan here*

I guess the name thing is a little outta hand. I mean Ardwen. *shakes head* BUT that doesnt make me hate the story...and I know where you got the quote from. from who's sig, that is. :p

and Dark: You mentioned in your anti-rant that Saphira is the Ring. :no: methinks you just said that to make Eragon look worse..no offense..

Saphira cant really be described as an object. She's just a Dragon..

and I searched "Murtag" for about half-hour and I didnt find any charatcer from any book named that...


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PostPosted: March 29th, 2007, 5:59 pm 
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Erm, well, Saphira is a lame character... and she's supposedly 'powerful' although she isn't. And, like Dark said, she's given to Eragon.

Well, sort of.

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PostPosted: March 29th, 2007, 6:00 pm 


*sigh* Well..I can still argue against that. But I think I shall tip my hat and leave this thread...

If I said all I wanted to, it'd sound kinda mean..

Besides, everyone on this thread seems against Eragon, so I feel kinda alone. :blush:


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That's kind of the reason why I started this thread... because I didn't like it...

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PostPosted: March 29th, 2007, 10:13 pm 


Yes, I know. But I still must defend. :D

Oh..right. I said I was leaving. *Leaves* :p


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Haldir o Lórien wrote:
Dark, Queen of Angmar wrote:
Ok, rant time, lets see what i can write out.

Names:...Chrisy, get yourself some originality, using the names Vanilor and Eridor IS NOT ORIGINAL!!!! Valinor and Eriador are two places that Professor Tolkien managed to create. Isenstar? Oh my gods, i think you mean Isengard. and Ardwen? Hello Arwen. *runs off to fetch book*. Ok i can go on. Eldor? Sounds a lot like... Elladan, Elrohir, Elrond, should i go on? Gil'ead? Gil-Galad. Rona? Thats a hardware store for peats sake!! Oh, and i forget what book it is, but the name Murtag has already been taken, adding an h does not make it original. Galfni-Gandalf. Eoam-Eomer, man... this is starting to kill me. And one of the worst Beirland...i almost died when i read that on the map. Another really bad one, Melian, how freaking obviouse is that.

Plot:Holy flying cheese! These books could be called Star of the Rings, wow man! Kid living with uncle, uncle dies at hands of some weird beast with an unpronounceable name. Kid gets some magical thing(Saphira, lightsaber you could say and the Ring). Kid vows revenge, gets help from some weird old man(Brom was ok, but too similiar to Star Wars characters and Gandy). An epic quest takes place with a shady character(Murtagh-Aragorn(who is so much hotter than Murtagh)). Old weird man dies(oh wow...Gandy and that other dude). Continues on blah blah balh, in this case Star Wars kicks Eragons skinny blonde butt. And someone called this an epic. Absoloutely not, not in any way shape or form is CP's little trilogy an "epic" is a waste of paper, and he killed hundreds of thousands of trees publishing this "epic"

Characters:Eragon-Luke, need i say more? Brom-Gandalf, other wierd charrie from SW. Murtagh-Aragorn, Arya-Arwen, Saphira-Ring, you could compare Orik to Gimli... thats really all i can think of, but he's a plagurizing little man and i hate his guts.

One of my main rants is Eragon, in other words Marty-Sam, a character than has many tragic things happen to them, make it sportingly through, and : show no emotion what so ever, have amazing powers that usually take years to build up, have hundreds of women flocking after them and are very thick.

I detest his books, i have both btw, CP needs to get himself an imagination and some backbone so he can creat names that aren't so blatantly Tolkien. The movie was a let down, and CP needs to have his brains bashed out. There, i've had my say...*is content*


EDIT:I would also like to say that Eragon will not appeal to the legions of readers who have been captivated by the Lord of the Rings trilogy, if being captivaed means bashing and burning it then yes.

"Sorry if i sound like im bashing the books, which probably am, but this is my opinion, and if you dont like it, we agree to disagree."


Darky my dear... you totally voiced all my thoughts all in one beautiful post. :) I wonder... how difficult is it to come up with SLIGHTLY more original names?


exactly!

oh no prob Shadowcat, i've gotten many nice warm receptions from people on LJ when i wrote it [/sarcasm]

jus a Dragon? she had such potential, and no, i seriousely think that she compares to the Ring, LotR is centered around the Ring, and Eragon is likewise around Saphira, if Saphira didn't exist neither would the story, same with the Ring.

Murtag is not a well know charrie, thats probably why you couldnt find it and CP didn't come up with a different name. But Murtag does exist.

She's sort of giving herself to him... kinda.

*content again* i love debating/bashing/disagreeing about Eragon.


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But is putting "I hate Eragon" in your sig very nice? I hate Star Wars with a passion (for my own reasons) But I do not put "I hate Star Wars"

Okay, sorry....I am mean..:(

and how do you know CP might have copied Murtagh's name? If the book you say he copied it from is not really known, theres a chance he did nt copy.

and its not like Saphira is the biggest charatcer in Eragon, as the Ring is the most important thing. Saphira really kinda is not..

and one last thing:
I dont think its very nice making a thread bashing up Eragon. :( Its one of my favorite books..and well...to read ppl bashing it, is not nice. Like I said, I wont put up a thread bashing Star Wars.

So, why not make a "Anti-Inheritance Club" you guys can bash there. :)


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PostPosted: March 31st, 2007, 11:12 am 
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No one to argue with if we did that.

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your not allowed to creat anti-clubs.

well thats whay i said that maybe CP created a name similar to another, but not realised it. But i'm not sure if he's read that book or not so im just going on theory here.


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PostPosted: April 1st, 2007, 2:41 pm 


Lol. Now: I've probably said this before, but, I dont see how Eldest can be copied at all. Eragon..yes...but not Eldest.


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Oh, yes. The main character going away with the creature that started the entire story to a far-away forest in order to learn from a new, older, weaker teacher, only to return just in time to be defeated but spared by an enemy and learn that their father is the evil emporer's right-hand man. No similarities to Star Wars at all. ;)

As I've said before, though, I DO NOT HATE ERAGON. I actually think it's okay and enjoy reading it. However, I'm not afraid to laugh at some of its ridiculous similarities to other stories. Whether they were intentional or not, you can't deny them.

However, there has been some pretty outright, merciliess bashing here. In't that against forum rules? let's try to have a discussion here, not an argument. :)

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PostPosted: April 1st, 2007, 3:50 pm 


Well..I've never seen Star Wars, so, I dont recognize any of these similiarties.


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I'm not a StarWars fan, but the similarities stick out [a lot] when people write them down.

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PostPosted: April 1st, 2007, 6:36 pm 


Lol. well not for me. since..I am almost completely clueless about the plot of SW.

and its not like a proven fact that CP copied.

I was once writing a story of my own..till I realized I slightly copied a bit--without meaning to. I dunno..its just sorta hard not to after you've been a huge fan of like LOTR and such.


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Shy wrote:
But is putting "I hate Eragon" in your sig very nice? I hate Star Wars with a passion (for my own reasons) But I do not put "I hate Star Wars"

Okay, sorry....I am mean..:(

and how do you know CP might have copied Murtagh's name? If the book you say he copied it from is not really known, theres a chance he did nt copy.

and its not like Saphira is the biggest charatcer in Eragon, as the Ring is the most important thing. Saphira really kinda is not..

and one last thing:
I dont think its very nice making a thread bashing up Eragon. :( Its one of my favorite books..and well...to read ppl bashing it, is not nice. Like I said, I wont put up a thread bashing Star Wars.

So, why not make a "Anti-Inheritance Club" you guys can bash there. :)

You could put "I hate Star Wars" in your sig if you wanted to... I don't think anyone would really mind, lol. So no hard feelings.

Well Saphira IS the biggest character, really. Without the dragon, there wouldn't be dragon riders. And without the whole dragon issue, Arya wouldn't have come into the picture, Eragon wouldn't have... none of them would have. The story wouldn't have happened. So yes, it does revolve around her.

And they made a thread against PotC a while ago, and I'm a huge PotC fan. I didn't mind that thread at all because everyone is entitled to their own opinions and everyone there (and here) was criticizing in a constructive way, which most fans can abide.


PS - Like Darky said... Anti-clubs aren't allowed. And even if they were, you guys wouldn't join it... and running down CP / Eragon would get boring if we were doing it without anyone countering us.

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