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PostPosted: July 9th, 2008, 6:42 pm 
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i think that would be kinda cool.
i'd participate. :)


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I like the idea too, and would certainly participate. :yes:


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I'm up for that!

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I might jump in now and again, when I've got an opinion. But I warn you, I'm terrible at analyzing songs. I always think they're singing about death when they're singing about birth. Or some other such ridiculous exagerration that would get my point across. :P


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I'd be willing to add a thought here and there, when I can. :)

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Elegost Eruaphadion wrote:
Haha. :P Well I'm sure we'll have a lot to talk about with all the bright people on here. I've had a PM already with two songs so you guys might want to send me some more before I have to pick one of those. ;)


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*makes soothing noises*

I kinda like this idea. Perhaps I shall pop in now and then. And possibly make a few suggestions, as well. Tee hee.

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I'm terrible at analyzing things like poetry, but its a cool idea.

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Ooh! I'd love to participate in this. I'm infamous for analyzing lyrics. :teehee:

Awesome idea Elegost! :)

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I might participate in this.

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This sounds like fun! I'd be happy to join


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Oh wow, this is a good song! I've never heard it before, but I already love it!

The lyrics are also very hard to decipher. I have seriously been trying to think of a meaning for it for a bout 30 minutes. I've listened to the song quite a few times as well....I'm not the best at this kind of stuff....

Well, the title of the song is Amaranth, and as Elegost has said, amaranth symbolizes not just eternity, but eternity that never fades or dims, an eternity that always stays the same. How that fits into the lyrics....I havn't a clue. Well, the lyrics say to "Caress the one, the hiding amarath...' Maybe that means 'embrase somthing eternal.' The second part of the sentence is "...in the land of the daybreak" Daybreak is dawn, when it first becomes light. That could be a symbol for hope. Hold on to somthing eternal and hope.

The sentances before that "Caress the one, the Never Fading/ Rain in your heart- tears of snow white sorrow" Again, "Caress the one, the Never Fading" The title "Never Fading" seems to be an appropriate title for God.

In the song it sounds like the singer says "Never Fading Rain" but I think that "The Never Fading" is a seperate entity from the "Rain", that the "Rain in your heart" are the tears of snow white sorrow. Snow-white symbolizes purity, innocence or unmarred, so that would lead one to believe that the sorrow is pure, innocent, and unmarred by evil, or that one is mourning somthing pure, innocent, and unmarred.

Though they say "him" in the song, I think they are refering to people in general.
"Baptized with the perfect name/ The doubting one by heart/Alone without himself."
I take that as we all have names and they are flawless in the sence that names themselves can do no harm, only those that bare them. We are not worthy of our names because we can only mar them. For example, because of Adolph Hitler, the name Adolph has greatly decreased. It was not the name Adolph that caused massive genocide, but the man that bore it. The doubting one by heart means we all doubt our ability and self worth. However, we all have our abilities and talents, but when we doubt them we are not being ourselves. We loose our true self. Once distanced from who we really are, we are alone.

"War between him and day/ Need someone to blame/In the end little he can do."
I think that 'day' in this sence is revealment, since during the day there is light. We do not want to reveal ourselves to others. And, rather than taking the fault for our own insecurities, we need to place the blame on others. We need to feel that our insecurity and feeling of failure is not in our control. But, since that blame is misplaced, we never belive that it is another person's fault.

"You believe but what you see/You recieve but what you give"
Basically "you reap what you sow." If the lyrics were just "You believe but what you see" it may point to the difficulty people have in maintaining faith in what they cannot see. But, since the sentace ""You recieve but what you get" was added, I take it as a warning, that people will take somthing for face value and not take into account what is unseeable. In the music video, it showed two bows carrying an angel. The other villagers didn't see her as the boys did. They saw her only as a freak. They saw what they believed.

I'm done for now....I'll analyze the rest of the song once my brain stopps throbbing.

Great song though.

EDIT: The music video was almost certainly inspired by Hugo Simberg's painting, Wounded Angel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wounded_Angel


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I think the lyrics of Viva la Vida really fit to the Album cover with the picture of the French Revolution.
I really think it's interesting to portray the life of a king from a king's point of view and how having so much power is not really good at all.

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