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Who did the most of the edain in the war against morgoth?
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Author:  mephiston, lord of death [ October 7th, 2006, 6:43 am ]
Post subject:  Who did the most of the edain in the war against morgoth?
I think that Beren did the most for the obvious reason for nickling a silmaril for that little tea leaf morgoth but turin does rock as well. :explode: :-D
Author:  Aerandir [ October 7th, 2006, 1:54 pm ]
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Um, I'd say definately Beren, at least directly (he ended up having an entire army devoted to tracking him down and capturing/killing him!), but Earendil probably did the worst damage, indirectly, by sailing to Valinor and getting the Valar to come back and defeat Morgoth. Beren wounded him, Earendil destroyed him, indirectly.
Author:  Guest [ October 7th, 2006, 5:48 pm ]
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Maybe Turin or Beren...
Author:  mephiston, lord of death [ October 8th, 2006, 10:22 am ]
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Didnt Turin slay loads of Orcs tho when he was a) on the marches of Doriath, b) when he was one of the 2 captains, C) when he fought against Glaurung the smelly dragon in Nargothrond and killing loads of orcs + glaurung himself in Brethil. I m buzzing but my personal fave edain is Turin so Im a little bit Biased so whatever mate. Did Beren actually wound Morgoth???
Author:  Eruhin [ January 18th, 2007, 4:42 pm ]
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no he didnt. at least nothing about this is said in the sil or the lost tales. i think Húrin and Huor did a great deal too. if they hadn't defended turgon who could retreat there would perhaps not been a gondolin and earendil might not have been born...
Author:  Eärendil The Mariner [ January 19th, 2007, 3:55 am ]
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Aerandir wrote:
but Earendil probably did the worst damage, indirectly, by sailing to Valinor and getting the Valar to come back and defeat Morgoth.


Did I read that correctly? Aerandir, what do you mean that Earendil did the most damage? If it wasn't for him, all of Beleriand and Middle-Earth would have been in shadows if it wasn't for the aid of the Valar called by Earendil. And what do you mean by:- "indirectly"?
Author:  Fíriel_18190 [ January 19th, 2007, 9:44 am ]
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I'd say that Túrin and Beren did most in the war against Morgoth.
Beren got a Silmaril from Morgoth and also was one of Barahir's "outlaws" who did a lot against Morgoth's servants.
Túrin was the slayer of Glaurung and also killed a lot of Morgoth's servants.
Author:  Aerandir [ January 22nd, 2007, 11:05 am ]
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Eruhin, Turin did do that. EonwesBestMate was correct.

Earendil, I'm not sure what exactly you're asking. From the looks of your post, you stated the same points as I did, and yet made it seem as though I was wrong. I think we both agree, though.

Earendil did the most damage to Morgoth indirectly, because he did not do anything to Morgoth himself, but he brought down a bunch of people on Morgoth who did do a lot against him.
Author:  Fíriel_18190 [ January 22nd, 2007, 11:47 am ]
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I think Earendil The Mariner only missunderstood the word damage in ur post Aerandir. I think Earendil The Mariner thought you were saying that Earendil (the real one..) did the most damage to Middle-Earth.
Author:  Aerandir [ January 22nd, 2007, 11:57 am ]
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Oh. No, I didn't mean that.
Author:  Eärendil The Mariner [ January 22nd, 2007, 3:10 pm ]
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Earendil, I'm not sure what exactly you're asking. From the looks of your post, you stated the same points as I did, and yet made it seem as though I was wrong. I think we both agree, though.

Earendil did the most damage to Morgoth indirectly, because he did not do anything to Morgoth himself, but he brought down a bunch of people on Morgoth who did do a lot against him.


Oops! Yes, my fault. I mis-read your post Aerandir. Please forgive me.


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think Earendil The Mariner only missunderstood the word damage in ur post Aerandir. I think Earendil The Mariner thought you were saying that Earendil (the real one..) did the most damage to Middle-Earth.

No it's cos I thought Aerandir meant that Earendil did the most damage to the people of Beleriand hehe. But thanks for posting your comment in my defence Firiel. :)

Sorry once again for my misunderstandment!

Thanks
Author:  Aerandir [ January 23rd, 2007, 4:49 am ]
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Lol, okay, Earendil. Now I get it. Thanks for clearing that up.
Author:  Fíriel_18190 [ January 23rd, 2007, 10:14 am ]
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Oh ok.. sorry 4 getting u wrong Earendil..
Author:  mephiston, lord of death [ January 23rd, 2007, 12:28 pm ]
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Errrm I must confess,i havent been keeping up with this and cant be bothered to reslly look at all posts so whatr we discussing and what debate is there?
Author:  Eärendil The Mariner [ January 23rd, 2007, 1:54 pm ]
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Oh ok.. sorry 4 getting u wrong Earendil..

Lol! no problem at all ... no need to be sorry Fíriel_18190 hehe :)
Author:  Eruhin [ January 23rd, 2007, 2:21 pm ]
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by the way aerandir: when i said: "no he didn't" i actually meant that beren did not wound morgoth. a splinter of the knife with which he cut the silmaril from the iron crown hit morgoths cheek but i wouldn't call that a wound.
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