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Post subject: The Arkenstone Posted: January 20th, 2006, 3:26 am |
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What do you guys think the Arkenstone was? I have wondered occasionally if it is maybe a Silmaril, but then I remember that the two that Maedhros and Maglos took will not be recovered until "the breaking of the world."
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Post subject: Posted: January 20th, 2006, 5:03 pm |
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Joined: 08 June 2005 Posts: 390 Location: Doriath
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Saying that it's "just another gem" seems kind of impolite (I know, I'm odd). It was certainly no Silmaril. I'm guessing it's a very beautiful kind of mithril, found beneath the roots of Erebor.
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Post subject: of course Posted: February 11th, 2006, 4:49 am |
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Joined: 04 February 2006 Posts: 17 Location: Lothlorien
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every reader of "The hobbit" can answer you! The arkenstone is a very big diamont which the dwarfs found in the mines (oh i cant remember the name of the mines....) i wouldnt say that it was a silmaril!
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Post subject: Posted: February 13th, 2006, 9:09 pm |
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Joined: 10 September 2005 Posts: 5839 Location: P3X-774, Rohan, Moya, or my TARDIS
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I don't think it was A silmaril either. In the book, all the simarils are destroyed or lost in some way.
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Post subject: Posted: February 14th, 2006, 7:08 pm |
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Joined: 06 May 2005 Posts: 2120 Location: midwest Country:
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Post subject: Posted: February 15th, 2006, 3:22 am |
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Joined: 02 January 2006 Posts: 5728 Location: Mithlond Country:
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Lol, Nimrodel - I have read the Hobbit, which is how I know about the Arkenstone. The question here is, what do you think it was besides a large Diamond. I agree with Elu Thingol - simply 'gem' seems to be too commonplace. It's not an ordinary one, that's for sure.
Maybe it's one of the Elves' attempts to reconstruct the Silmarils....O_O
or not.
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Post subject: Posted: February 17th, 2006, 10:46 am |
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Joined: 04 February 2006 Posts: 17 Location: Lothlorien
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oh...sorry my english isnt aswell as i could understand the real meaning of your question i thought you just wanted to know what it is, but although its clear that it couldnt be a silmaril!
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Post subject: Posted: March 16th, 2006, 8:30 am |
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Joined: 14 March 2006 Posts: 43
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Nah. its not a silmaril... It's probably just a very old and important jewl or something that worth alot, and it was surely heritable thing in Thorin's family (precious )
-It's just a stone!
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Post subject: Posted: March 27th, 2006, 11:22 pm |
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Joined: 23 February 2006 Posts: 28
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Aerandir: Quote: Maybe its one of the Elves' attempts to reconstruct the Silmaril
Wasn't it just a jewel discovered under Erebor, and was found by Thrain I who's descendants worked on it until it looked wonderful? If it was the Elves attempts to reconstruct the Silmaril why would they bury it under Erebor? [/b]
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Post subject: Posted: March 28th, 2006, 6:32 am |
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Joined: 02 January 2006 Posts: 5728 Location: Mithlond Country:
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Well, you never know how it got there...and the elves did try to reconstruct the Silmarils, though they couldn't compare with them...
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Post subject: Posted: March 29th, 2006, 11:15 pm |
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Joined: 23 February 2006 Posts: 28
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Hmmm. Can anyone tell me more about the Elves attempts to reconstruct the Silmarils. Thanks!!
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Post subject: Posted: April 12th, 2006, 7:56 pm |
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Joined: 05 April 2006 Posts: 208 Location: Greece
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Need to search so I can come with all the information. Soon I will be back.
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Post subject: Posted: May 5th, 2006, 5:45 pm |
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Joined: 28 April 2006 Posts: 100 Location: California
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Veedhelion wrote: Hmmm. Can anyone tell me more about the Elves attempts to reconstruct the Silmarils. Thanks!!
There really could not be any attempt to reconstruct the Silmarils, as they were made to capture the essence of the Two Trees that had been destroyed by Ungoliant (see the Silmarillion)Once the trees are gone, and their essence lost, that's it.
The Arkenstone was probably just an especially large gem of unusual brilliance and clarity. The dwarves may have carved it in order to maximize its capture of ambient light.
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