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 Post subject: Re: Gandalf and Galadriel
PostPosted: September 25th, 2016, 8:33 pm 
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Aww..... I think that would make such a romantic story!

I think gandalf and galadriel would would look cute together.

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 Post subject: Re: Gandalf and Galadriel
PostPosted: September 26th, 2016, 12:07 pm 
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I dislike the whole idea that a male and female can't be extremely good friends without having a romantic relationship. They were absolutely above that. You gotta remember that they were 2 of the wisest and most powerful beings in Middle-earth, who also shared the powers and burdens of their rings of power. They shared a special but very platonic relationship I think. Relationships for Elves are vastly different than what we know. She was married and committed to Celeborn. Elves were as monogamous as they come and marry for love...marriage was a very sacred bond to them. The idea of Galadriel committing adultery is simply absurd to me. I do believe they had a very deep friendship though. Perhaps there could have been a romantic mutual interest but it wouldn't have escalated beyond that.

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 Post subject: Re: Gandalf and Galadriel
PostPosted: September 26th, 2016, 8:21 pm 
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I would tend to agree with that. They were both far to wise and as mentioned were two of very few who had some things in common like the rings and a world (litterally) of experience.

In can't see them having any kind of inclination towards eachother. Other than all that, though, do wizzards even marry? Has Tolkien touched on the issue? I am not aware of any that did.

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 Post subject: Re: Gandalf and Galadriel
PostPosted: September 26th, 2016, 10:03 pm 
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Well I don't know about the Istari specifically, I don't recall it ever being mentioned by Tolkien, but I don't see why they shouldn't; other Maiar had the freedom to be married and have children. The thing with the Istari though is that they were Maiar who were sent to Middle-earth for a very specific purpose: they were on a mission to help bring about the defeat of Sauron. Considering Gandalf was the only one of the five who saw this through to the end, and was even brought back from death once when he died prematurely, I think that any romantic relationship would have just been pointless, a hindrance, and completely uncharacteristic. Everything he did while in Middle-earth was for a purpose.

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 Post subject: Re: Gandalf and Galadriel
PostPosted: September 27th, 2016, 10:36 pm 
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I see. Well, I suspect if others could he could have as well. I do agree with the point, though, that it seems like a hindrance and out of character for Gandalf. I couldn't say for Galadriel as far as her character. It shows little of that in the movies.

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 Post subject: Re: Gandalf and Galadriel
PostPosted: September 27th, 2016, 11:23 pm 
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He being a devout Catholic, I just can't see Tolkien envisioning any of his characters committing any sort of infidelity, even if it's just in an emotional sense. :happy:

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 Post subject: Re: Gandalf and Galadriel
PostPosted: September 30th, 2016, 9:59 pm 
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Since The Unexpected Journey was on a free-to-air channel last night, I watched about ⅔'s of it. It was the first time I wayched this since I attended a premiere showing of it before it was released. I will give credit where credit is due, and say that Galadriel was much better portrayed by Cate Blanchett in this movie than in Fellowship. The essence of Galadriel was captured in all ways at the White Council, and the Council scenes were for the most part well done. I didn't like the fact they tuned out Sarumann though, for I don't think that would happen. He wasn't known to be corrupted at the time. Anything else can I say I liked ??? yeah, Martin Freeman as Bilbo did an amazing job! That is all the good I can really say about it.

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 Post subject: Re: Gandalf and Galadriel
PostPosted: October 10th, 2016, 1:09 am 
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Aredhel Ar-Feiniel wrote:
He being a devout Catholic, I just can't see Tolkien envisioning any of his characters committing any sort of infidelity, even if it's just in an emotional sense. :happy:



I would have to agree. However, working on the assumption that Middle earth has taken on a "Life of it's own" and grown outside of Tolkien's original ideals... I still can't see it from the characters themselves.






@Hanasian I must admit. I did like Galadriel's role in the hobbit films better than in the original trilogy.

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 Post subject: Re: Gandalf and Galadriel
PostPosted: January 20th, 2017, 8:20 am 
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Not being a big fan of PJ's fanfic of The White Council, I will give credit for making these scenes the best of the whole Hobbit movie franchise. I think it is a simple minded reach to try and make Gandalf and Galadriel appear romantically involved. but I'll give PJ credit here in not really making it like that, but trying to show a deep understanding between the two. It was ethereal, not physical.

I still think that Cate looked very 'Galadrielish' in these scemes, and they crapped on Saruman in these scenes, but it was already known by movie-only audiences that he would sell out the west in his power play that was shown in the earlier movies. Sadly, Elrond was somewhat marginalized in these scenes as well. It was a classic case of (in my opinion) PJ showing a sign if genius in his portrayal of things Middle Earth, only to snatch it away by some crappy screenplay writing. Oh well.... it is his signature.

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 Post subject: Re: Gandalf and Galadriel
PostPosted: January 20th, 2017, 3:58 pm 
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I agree. PJ has the talent of ruining even the most beautifully beginning scenes to something nah-nah-crappy. But I like that Galadriel at least is portrayed well by the script and by Cate.

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