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PostPosted: January 28th, 2011, 10:55 am 
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Now that I am back, for the most part, I would be more than happy to help with anything in the writing department. Scripts, Actor Bios, etc. And I have been DYING to get the quizzes section cleaned since I know what happened to more than half of them! *shakes fist at Quizilla for selling out to Nick and becoming quizillia.teennick.com* Besides I think I have more than half of the ones on the page favoured on the new quizilla anyway. XD

I work with a lot of scripts and am pretty good at script writing. I can get started right away on movie scripts actually. :D I have the EE on my portable hard drive so if I have to leave the house for a few days I can still work. :lol: I would have a question about scripts though. Would we want to make one script strictly theatrical release and have another with the Extended scenes in it? Or just compile it all into one but find a way to specify that this part is not in the theatrical release.

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Well, I've been typing up the FotR EE one. I would think just have it all on one, and say it's the EE, not theatrical. :D

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Maybe what you could do is like... put stars around the EE parts.

Like... say...

TE part of the script
**Extended scene**

TE scene

**EE scene**

Or the like. Because either way, you still have the same lines and all as the theatrical, so it really doesn't matter, now does it?

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I won't be able to work on it more than a few hours at most a day, but I would be willing to help out with anything I can. I know no code at all but could help with: finding new content, weeding out old/broken stuff, etc.

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Eruraina wrote:
Maybe what you could do is like... put stars around the EE parts.

Like... say...

TE part of the script
**Extended scene**

TE scene

**EE scene**

Or the like. Because either way, you still have the same lines and all as the theatrical, so it really doesn't matter, now does it?


Indeed. There are so many people that will read a part of the script or see a random extend scene and get frustrated that they can't find it in thier theatrical version of the movie. :lol: I've seen it happen numerous times. That is a good way to let people know which parts are EE only and will make the job a lot easier. :yes:

If no one has started on TTT script yet, I can get to work on that later today. (Didn't realize the time, I should proably go to sleep soon. :lol:)

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I see nothing wrong with you writting TTT script. Just so long as you correspond with Nurr so that it's written in the same way, though most scripts seem to be, at any rate.

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I'm just letting people know, that I'm currently in the middle of posting a thread asking people to start showing what graphics they want to put onto AU.

I really can't wait to get my hands on the graphics section. I was going to start doing stuff to the banners, save the code to my computer, add the graphics for when the time comes for the coders so all the image codes would be done for them, but all the graphics have been uploaded through AU, so not much I can do there. :-(

I think honestly, for now, all that can be done is literally gaterhing things like the scripts, graphics etc and getting them ready in preparation.

Also, maybe three or four people could start going over every inch of AU, checking it for errors, and then compare notes? As I said, we can't do anything with such info at the moment, but it will save time in the future.

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It seems that getting everything together is already starting to get... well.. started. Scripts being written, graphics getting collected, ect.

BUT, one thing that Arweb has put to attention is that it wouldn't be good to have a large number of people with access to the coding of the main site. It would cause oh so much disaster to have alot of people going in there and changing things. Since always before it's only ever been just Arweb doing all the coding herself. So it's only ever been just one person. And I think she said herself she wouldn't be comfortable, or she didn't want a bunch of people changing the site, especially if something goes wrong, in which if it goes too far wrong we're bound to go running to her, which wouldn't be right.

But then how many people should have control of the site coding, and who? An idea I came up with, though I don't know if it would work, is find the person most savvy in coding, and let them be in charge of the site. And what the rest of us can do is do that all view source on the page we want to change and go through and change it in notepad(or program equivilent) and send that code to the person in charge so they only have to copy and paste. Though there are probably ALOT of things that could go wrong. But then again if something did go wrong, the blame might go to that one person, even though that person only copied and pasted the site. But I think have some kind of overseer... hm... how about editor? Does that sound like a more friendly word for it? .... to keep a list and know whats being done where and when, and to be able to fix what goes wrong.

Like what I just said, typing out the idea, I just realized it is much like a magazine. Each person has their own 'article' that they submit to the editor who then publishes the magazine. Does this make any sence?

But being as I have volunteered to do the deviantart feature thing, I would need said person 'at my disposal' so to say either once a week or once a month depending on how often I decide to do this. Because, as I said before, and as Arweb herself had said, we can't have too many people taking over the coding of the site...

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That sounds like a good idea. Perhaps, two people could be the ultimate "coders", so hopefully any pages that did need amending, you would have a choice of two people who could do it, and also having two would mean if one was busy or on holiday, then someone would be there to it.

It also means that technically, not too many people would overall have access to the coding of AU - before any page was put onto the site, the ulimate coders would have checked it over first. If it was all organized, and people knew which pages were being fixed by whom, I don't see many problems arising.

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Looking back at Nurr's to-do list on page 3: I'd like to take a shot at sorting through the links. Not really sure how to go about that since we haven't gotten into the coding and all that. If someone's got some guidance or wisdom on what to do there I'd love to hear it.

Also, what did we decide to do about The Hobbit section? Should we focus on updating the LotR cast and crew before we start looking into The Hobbit? I'd definitely like to help with that. :)


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I like the thoughts on how to handle the access-to-server issue :) It doesn't have to be super-limited to just one or two, but we should probably cap it at...eh, maximum of five, probably. But fewer is better.

Just as a note, the plan of people looking at the source code to edit things and then sending the page to the people with server access is generally good. But just beware of the few pages (mostly the index) where what you see on the web in the source code is not what is loaded onto the server. For example, on the index page there's a php script that basically says "Load the WordPress-based news & updates section here" that shows up in the source code as pure html. The navigation header is the same way - shows up as html, but is entered into the server files as a php script. Make sense to the coding people?

But seriously, I think you guys are doing really well getting things sorted. Let me know when you've decided who will need server access and I'll get you lined up.

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Concerning the script:
Every time this has been brought up I couldn't help wondering why we wouldn't just get the scripts from a source like The Internet Movie Script Database or The council of Elrond? I'm sure there are sources we could use that wouldn't mind as long as we credited... So.. I'm not nerdy about scripts.. so.. is it because it has to be a homemade site?? :P


Concerning Ultimate Coders:
Fine by me but I think we should think in availability as well as coding skill. It wouldn't help if we have appointed awesome super coders if they aren't around regularly! ;)

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Concerning the script:
Every time this has been brought up I couldn't help wondering why we wouldn't just get the scripts from a source like The Internet Movie Script Database or The council of Elrond? I'm sure there are sources we could use that wouldn't mind as long as we credited... So.. I'm not nerdy about scripts.. so.. is it because it has to be a homemade site?? :P


:lol: I was thinking about that too actually. I don't know about everyone else but I think it will bring a sense of pride to feel that we did it ourselves rather than just copy and paste. in the end maybe it is a bit of making it a homemade site. :P Besides once school starts up again I will need something to do during my breaks and what better a way than to script write for a small contribution to A-U? :duh:


About the cast/crew bios: Perhaps updating the cast and crew bios would be a good idea after all. (I know I can help in writing up a few bios as well) Updating the bios would be a small and simple exercise for the people who can do/will do the coding. :) Get them even more familiar (if they aren't already) with the coding & publishing system for the site.


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Fine by me but I think we should think in availability as well as coding skill. It wouldn't help if we have appointed awesome super coders if they aren't around regularly! ;)

Indeed. :yes: That should be a big factor in who gets picked in the end... Unless we have an e-mail or phone number for the person who isn't on all that regualrly. Bother them when we have an update for thier section. :lol: I jest but yeah it should be someone who is on fairly regularly I agree.

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I see what you mean about the script and I do like the idea that everything is made by people here.. :-)

I tried to make a list of how I would want to arrange the forum categories and sub-boards... I tried... and I failed! I realised I couldn't 'get it right' and also that whatever changes we decide on, even getting rid of the signatures board will cause people to be upset... even me I'm sure. But a lot of you guys have great ideas. :teehee:
However, I'm also sure we need to re-arrange at least a couple of boards... make room for The Hobbit. And I think I'm in favour of keeping all our LotR-boards seperate like they are now... even though a lot os us socialise here and rarely go into the LotR-sections.. I believe those discussions were the only reason most of us came to the forum in the first place and this will be why new people will find their way here. They won't sign up just to hang out with us in Your Life.. they want to discuss the amount of hair on Frodo's feet and the lifespan of elves. I actually feel like re-reading the books and watch the movies and do the discussions all over again. :P


Anyway, I have a question what did you have in mind for all the old outdated threads...? I'm thinking a lot of the LotR discussions.. 95 percent of the club-threads, the old contests etc. Should we lock the threads and keep them so we can still go back and look at them? Should we dedicate a sub-board to memory lane and move them there - or would some of them have to go completely - as in delete them... (and I wonder how that will affect peoples post count). And will there come a time (I mean in the near future) where all the old baggage will slow down the forum or won't it be a problem within the next gazillion years?

Personally, I'm for a keeping and weeding concept: keep most of the old threads (like 95 percent) but locking them (and/or moving them) and weeding out a bit of the pointless threads. I believe we need a fresh start to a lot of things... though still keeping the old - if that makes sense...

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I think it's just going to take way too much time and effort to worry about weeding out threads right now. We'll need to organize the forums/subforums first before we even think about getting into those subforums to look at the threads. That'll take a lot of manpower and willpower that I think we should concentrate in other things right now. :)

Also, ultimate coders? Let's get this going. :cool:


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I agree with Larael. Wouldn't it be best to go through all the old threads and such when we hav everything else set up? I mean, that sounds like a job for a mod team, if you know what I mean. But I'm all for this concept. So as to unclutter some of the subforums that go back like 50 pages.


And... since no one else seems to volunteering for the coding job... I guess I'll be the first to volunteer is no one objects.

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