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Post subject: Re: Lack of Female Characters Posted: March 2nd, 2017, 7:52 am |
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Elthir wrote: Hey there are thousands of females in the chapter about Beorn. Or at least that's the buzz I'm hearing  The Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings were written during a time when most women did what Arwen (in the books) did. Stay home, pray, sew, etc. It was probably considered to him that it was quite bold to have Eowyn go out on to the front lines, which was good writing on his part. It was maybe a nod to the Viking shieldmaidens? I'm sure Elthir has a letter or two to explain it. 
Anyway, I'm not sure it really mattered much in the Hobbit what the genders were.
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Post subject: Re: Lack of Female Characters Posted: March 2nd, 2017, 8:18 am |
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I'm just happy someone got my pun 
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Post subject: Re: Lack of Female Characters Posted: March 2nd, 2017, 8:44 am |
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Elthir wrote: I'm just happy someone got my pun  Lol... only took 5 years!
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Post subject: Re: Lack of Female Characters Posted: March 2nd, 2017, 1:55 pm |
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Just goes to show: you can run from a bee pun (even for five years)... but you can't hive. I a pollengize 
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Post subject: Re: Lack of Female Characters Posted: March 2nd, 2017, 6:47 pm |
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Post subject: Re: Lack of Female Characters Posted: March 2nd, 2017, 7:46 pm |
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Post subject: Re: Lack of Female Characters Posted: April 2nd, 2017, 11:27 am |
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Joined: 05 March 2017 Posts: 1719 Location: I've been where Aragorn hasn't, but I now live in a cross between Hobbiton and Rivendell. Country:
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When I think about it, JRRT was being eccentric vis-a-vis the generic dragon quest (as in many other aspects) by not having a princess to be rescued from the blighted lizard. What a curmudgeon! (which is probably one of the reasons I find him sympathetic - I differ with him in quite a few real-world opinions, but he appears to hold some - perhaps not explicitly stated but to be recognized without excessive "digging" - that seem to be difficult to reconcile with some of his stated orthodoxies.
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Post subject: Re: Lack of Female Characters Posted: December 11th, 2017, 1:35 am |
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I think Tolkien wrote it the way he wrote it for a reason. Lack of female characters does not take away from the story at all and adding them in doesn't work well, as we have seen in the movies. I wish it was still socially acceptable to just not have female characters.
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Post subject: Re: Lack of Female Characters Posted: December 11th, 2017, 3:12 pm |
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Joined: 05 March 2017 Posts: 1719 Location: I've been where Aragorn hasn't, but I now live in a cross between Hobbiton and Rivendell. Country:
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Eighty years after The Hobbit’s publication date now, and when I watch (usually for a very short time before I want to “fwow up”) series, more accurately serials, soaps, telenovelas … and I often see a thunderingly pathetic depiction of women there. Too much stuff from US television which (among other things) has badly gone down the tubes since the days of Alzheimer Ronnie. I’ll take The Hobbit the book kept free of such garbage before seeing it polluted by current garbage. And Tauriel coming uncomfortably close to Mary Sue is no help; actually PJ pushed Galadriel to the edge of such trash too close for comfort (though I did like her seriously “not amused” manner when taking out Sauron …). Things have not become uniformly better even in the western world in the last 80 years.
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