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Post subject: Posted: December 29th, 2008, 1:43 am |
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Post subject: Posted: January 4th, 2009, 9:46 am |
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It is true that Frodo would never survived without Sam. So I choose Sam.
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Post subject: Posted: January 4th, 2009, 12:38 pm |
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But would Sam have been able to carry the ring? It's possible he would have been corrupted more quickly and more fully.
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Post subject: Posted: January 12th, 2009, 9:10 pm |
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Both of these characters are heroic. It really depends on your perspective on Heroism as to who you prioritise, but IMHO, they are both equally heroes.
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Post subject: Posted: March 16th, 2009, 4:08 am |
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there both hero's indeed. for example: if there were two rings, for both one to cary, would they ever reach mount doom? I don't think so...
Sam was a real hero for his help and loyalty to frodo, and frodo was a real hero because he carried the ring.
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Post subject: Posted: March 24th, 2009, 10:27 pm |
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You should have put a "Both".
Without Sam, Frodo would have died.
But without Frodo, everyone would have died... Hmmmm....
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Post subject: Posted: July 30th, 2009, 10:49 am |
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It's a circle of support between them. And indeed, I don't think Sam would have chosen to bear the burden of the Ring like Frodo did. But looking at what happened, Sam played a major role and indeed did carry the Ring for a time. They both helped immensely; I don't think there's any one hero. Everyone was a hero, not only those two but the people who fought to divert Sauron, the people far away doing what they could... etc.
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Post subject: Posted: August 4th, 2009, 2:12 am |
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My first response would be Sam, but then again Frodo is a hero in some ways too, as are all of the characters. Oh, what I would give to have someone like Sam! In "The Fellowship of the Ring", I thought it was so sweet how Sam flips out when he can't find Frodo in the corn husks. At Moria, he also tries to get Frodo to eat something, but Frodo coldy shrugs him off and says rudely, "I'm alright!" but Sam loves Frodo anyway and persists. "No, you're not alright." he says. "You're not eating. You're not sleeping either. Don't think I haven't noticed. I'm here to help you." You could never find anyone with a purer and more genuine heart than Sam.
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Post subject: Posted: January 23rd, 2010, 7:05 am |
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I would have to say that it isn't one or the other, it was the both of them. I'm sure most would say Frodo since he was the Ringbearer and he took the burden himself but I would have to agree with Aerwyn. They carried eachother through thick and thin on the journey making both of them a hero. The whole journey was possible due to the loyalty, love, and support they held in their hearts for eachother. If Sam was not there to support and help Frodo... I don't think Frodo could have made it through to the end.
I also agree with Aerwyn that everyone was a hero in thier own way not just Frodo and Sam.
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Post subject: Posted: March 14th, 2011, 8:40 am |
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Lady Rinoa wrote: I would have to say that it isn't one or the other, it was the both of them. I'm sure most would say Frodo since he was the Ringbearer and he took the burden himself but I would have to agree with Aerwyn. They carried eachother through thick and thin on the journey making both of them a hero. The whole journey was possible due to the loyalty, love, and support they held in their hearts for eachother. If Sam was not there to support and help Frodo... I don't think Frodo could have made it through to the end. I also agree with Aerwyn that everyone was a hero in thier own way not just Frodo and Sam.
Agreed! It took the combined efforts as it had through the ages. Without everyone involved it couldn't have worked.
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Post subject: Re: Real Hero Posted: March 31st, 2011, 5:07 pm |
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I agree that it was a combined effort...
But as for the poll as much as I like Frodo more than Sam now that I think about it Sam did do all the work.
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Post subject: Re: Real Hero Posted: April 1st, 2011, 5:44 pm |
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^I don't agree that Sam did all the work. He didn't carry the Ring, after all. Considering the incredible power the Ring has to affect people, Frodo was really strong to resist it as long as he did. That being said, he never would've made it to Mordor without Sam.
I couldn't choose only one of them, because they are both great heroes in their own way.
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Post subject: Re: Real Hero Posted: April 1st, 2011, 8:49 pm |
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True... Besides the ring was very heavy in the end... And if Frodo's state that would have been terrible to bear.
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Post subject: Re: Real Hero Posted: April 1st, 2011, 11:41 pm |
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I think Sam's character arc is much more transformative, which helps make him into more of a hero. Would he have done as well as Frodo carrying the ring? Probably not. The task was given to Frodo. Could Frodo have gotten past the Emen Muil without Sam? Doubt it. Just reading through this, Frodo is so pessimistic! Can't really blame him, but he just has a very defeated attitude. He needed Sam as much to take care of him as to give him hope.
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Post subject: Re: Real Hero Posted: April 12th, 2011, 4:23 pm |
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I found a quote by J.R R. Tolkien: "Frodo deserved all honour because he spent every drop of his power of his will and body, and that was just sufficient to bring him to the destined point and no further. Few others, possibly no others of his time, would have got so far." (The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien) I agree with that. But also that Sam helped him to get past that point and keep going. Because Sam did that, I think that he is the other half of the hero Frodo was meant to be. If that makes sense.
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Post subject: Re: Real Hero Posted: April 12th, 2011, 4:50 pm |
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Frodo and Sam are both heroes. Frodo carried the ring and Sam carried Frodo.
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