Very honestly my mellons, we are too small a band to get this revival thing
done on our own, with just word of mouth. I don't think there are even 10 of
us who are still active right now.

We need a different approach. Giving of our time is great, but
I think we need to invest more if we really want to see something
happen here. I strongly feel the approach we need to take is
PAID ADVERTISEMENT.

Now don't be afraid by the sound of it~ There is actually a lot we
can do with just a few dollars. We just have to take the right avenues.

My sister used Amazon Mechanical Turk to get views to her music video
on YouTube. It worked really well! She got a lot of views, and it upped
her in YT's search engine so now she gets views more easily than before.
She only paid for this service once, but it helped a lot. She suggests going
through Facebook though, if we want to try it. YouTube finds it suspicious
if a lot of views come directly from AMT, and they will cut your view count
down. But if they see the views coming from FB, they just think "Oh it's being
shared on FB, that's why it's getting so many views." This way would actually
be better for us too, because the AMT viewers would have the chance to see our page
and like/share it if they are interested, PLUS give us the videos views.
My sister paid 8 cents a view. She spent 80 dollars total. She got about
2,000 views in 2 months.

And the good thing about getting your views on YT up is that the more
you've got the more you get. It ups you in their search engine because
you become for their business.

Another thing we could do is make deals with popluar YouTubers. For example,
most beauty YouTubers are willing to strike business deals where a store
will send them a free item and they review it. If the beauty youtuber has 100,000
subscribers, their new videos get about 2,000 views within the first 24 hours!
If one of us makes an item that is lotr themed (for example elvish style jewelry) and
has a beauty youtuber review it, giving credit to the designer from A-U.com, that is
about 2,000 people hearing about us in 24 hours!!!
We could target different types of YouTubers with similar deals.

We could also try making a YouTube commerical. The kind where we would be
a paid advertisement before someone's video. I can't remember all the details
of this, but I don't think it was an expensive deal, if it even cost anything.

I don't know how much any of us could fork out for these ideas right now, and
if you can't fork out anything no worries! Just doing whatever you can
to help is fine. ^^ But for those of us who could contribute something
these may be really good things to consider. Even if we had to save up for it,
I really feel these things could make a difference if we get them done.


Anyway, what do you guys think? Until we can pull of paid advertising, we can
continue with present efforts as well.

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Personally... I think I might need to hire you as a marketing consultant for my book... O_@ LOL

On a more serious note I think these are great ideas! I am unsure how much I would be able to do at the moment but I would certainly be willing to put a little money into trying to revive this place.

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Haha thanks. ^^

Yeah, I will need to save a bit myself for this, but I think we should keep posted here what we are putting aside so we can all have an idea of how our goal is going.

Between all of us we should come up with a number. How much do we all think we should try to set aside for this?

As far as the youtube suggestions go: I will make some elvish themed nail designs and jewelry. I can say they are designed by a member of our forum, and are coming as a gift in exchange for some positive comments about the site, a shoutout, and perhaps a tweet. All in all this business deal may only costs me 3 or 4 dollars and if all goes as hoped we should get a pretty decent return.

Also, I am going to do a giveaway on tumblr. I will stretch it out for maybe a month and half so it can get spread around enough to be effective. But I have been hyping my followers up for a nail art giveaway. Rather than just pick a random re-blogger of the post (as it usually goes) I will give the prize away in exchange for whoever can spread around a post about A-U the most times.
Hopefully this will help too.

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Have you ever looked into Kickstarter? https://www.kickstarter.com/ I have no idea if what we are wanting to do would apply but I get the impression that you could raise funds for almost anything you wanted.

It's kind of funny you mention a giveaway, I was just thinking of doing some sort of giveaway today. I love your idea about the person who does the most shares wins, though. That's cool. I was thinking I could maybe do a book giveaway with one of my poetry books but I did not know if you thought that would work since it's not LOTR related. I don't really make anything that would be.

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Ah, yes this is like Patrion. I will look into this.

You know some people only ask a dollar pledge a month from their followers
on these kinds of sites. And if they have enough followers, even that can make
a huge difference. Even if there are only 20 of us AU members (active or non)
willing to contribute a dollar a month for 3 months, we would then have 60 dollars
to work with. During this time we could get all the new updates, and graphics ready.
That would give us time for a new layout too, and whatever else needs to to be
updated.

The AU fb page seems to be a closed group, so I have to message an admin
if I want in. Until then, maybe someone who is already in the group, could
propose the dollar a month idea. We might even be able to ask 2 dollars. This
donation feels a lot easier and way more do-able than asking asking 20 or so $s.
If members feel the donation is easy, it may make it easier for them, to donate
the next month too.

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I'm pretty sure any member of the Facebook group is allowed to accept requests. I accepted Jax's when he requested to join not too long ago.

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Maybe it's because I was looking at it on my phone??? Idk.
But I checked it again on my comp and it didn't say closed anymore
so I sent a request. Thanks for telling me.

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You're welcome! I didn't get a notification with your request to join the group... I'm pretty sure now that I only saw Jax's request because he was already on my friend's list - which means people can only accept their friend's requests (and the admin of course). If that makes sense, haha! But Arweb should be able to accept soon anyway, she's on Facebook pretty often.

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The dollar a day would be a good idea or a low amount like that if asking in general for members to donate.

I would not mind proposing the idea in the facebook group if you are not yet accepted.

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Thanks Jax! I haven't been accepted yet, so please, go for it!

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Alright, I will go post it in the group.

If you would like I can send you a friends request on facebook and accept you into the group if I can.

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I can't spend much time but I can spend a couple of dollars. More active members would be great. I find it hard to get the hang of it and post new topics because it is so quiet here (and because my english is not perfect, so it takes more time to write a post)
About facebook, I'm not accepted yet. How do you get in?

Thanks Jax!

Ok, that would be great! My name on fb is Ah Nah Reyes.

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Mind if I add you too Synariel?

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It is great that you are willing to help! As far as the facebook page goes it looks like someone on your friends list who is also in the group has to accept your request OR the webmiss herself. I can add you as a friend and try and accept you as well, or I can simply make a post in the group and mention your name and see if I can get a mod to accept you.












Sent you a friends request. I'll see if I can get you accepted and if I can't do it I will just make a post as I mentioned to Thenidiël above. *thumbs up*

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Of course not! Go ahead!

Jax, thank you! I accepted your request just now.



Your English is actually really good Thenidiel! Your grammer is good too and I never have trouble
understanding you. I understand taking more time to write a post though when Eng isn't
your native language. Thanks for being willing to help! For now, we'll just keep track of how much
everyone can donate until it's actually time to use the money.

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