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PostPosted: June 7th, 2006, 2:35 pm 
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^Congratulations, Saerwen. :wave:

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Any time.. I became teary all over again..

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I've become more and more interested in Aragorn. Mostly for the reasons people have already brought up. I think the most prominent image of Aragorn I have is that he is the healer-king. I don't know why, but it sticks in my mind.
I also find it interesting, that most girls I've talked to find Aragorn the kind of man they'd like to marry. I mean, you don't hear many women saying they'd like to marry Boromir, at least in my experiences.


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I looked up the name Aragorn
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The meaning of Aragorn is not clearly stated. A note found among J.R.R. Tolkien's papers at Marquette University suggests that "kingly valour" may have been the intended meaning.

and his father gave him the name Aragorn, a name used in the House of the Chieftains. But Ivorwen at his naming stood by, and said "Kingly Valour" (for so that name is interpreted): "that he shall have, but I see on his breast a green stone, and from that his true name shall come and his chief renown: for he shall be a healer and a renewer."


I give it a good shot on finding what his name ment.Why was Aragorn called Estal, which means hope? I think it was because Aragorn was going to bring hope to men.

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 Post subject: Aragorn: A wounded warrior?
PostPosted: June 11th, 2006, 3:17 pm 
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I named this thread, “Aragorn: A tender warrior?” As I think about it I wonder if it shouldn’t have been, “Aragorn: A wounded warrior?” Because I think the wonderful man he became had so much to do with his wound and how he responded to it. I think the difference between the balanced, tender warrior and the shallow, self-centered brute idepends on what is done with the wound.

Where was Aragorn’s wound? The weakness of Isildur hung over all his heirs—including Aragorn. His birthright was the curse of his life. He had lost both his father and his grandfather because of it. At the request of his mother, his identity was kept secret, as she feared he would be slain like them if his true identity as the Heir of Isildur became known. Many in Gondor felt that the Line of Isildur no longer had enough dignity to claim kingship over Gondor.

That is a formidable wound! Painful and hard to face.

The young Estel would have heard eyewitness accounts of the Army of the Last Alliance, the Battle of Dagorlad, the siege of Barad-dur, death of Gil-Galad, Elendil and Anarion and the defeat of Sauron at the hand of Isildur.
He would have heard first-hand of the utmost dismay and despair Elrond must have suffered when Isildur refused to cast the One Ring into the fires of Mount Doom thus ridding Middle-earth of the dreadful presence of Sauron forever. Hearing these stories first hand would made his wound even harder to bear.

But a wound unfelt is a wound unhealed. He must enter it—face it.
Frederick Buechner said,
“The trouble with steeling yourself against the harshness of reality is that the same steel that secures your life against being destroyed secures your life also against being opened up and transformed.”
When we see Aragorn’s tenderness, self-sacrifice and romance, we realize that he hasn’t “steeled himself up”. His wound, which was given him in the place of his true strength as an effort to take him out, was healing. In the brokenness and healing that came from facing his wound he discovered who he really was and what he had to offer the world.


What helped to heal his wound? Friendship—he came to know intimately all three bearers of the Elven rings of Power. Indeed, Elrond and Galadriel were members of his foster-family. Intimacy—to aid him in his travails, Gandalf the Grey, bearer of Narya, befriended him and strengthened his heart and his resolve to put right the troubles of Middle-earth. And what of Arwen?
Times of grieving the wound—it was not his fault and it did matter. Forgiveness—both of Isildur and the men of Gondor.

In this process he learned who he really was—his true name. That is why I feel the power of what Will posted earlier:

"’Fear not!’ said a strange voice behind him. Frodo turned around and saw Strider, and yet not Strider; for the weatherworn Ranger was no longer there. In the stern sat Aragorn son of Arathorn, proud and erect, guiding the boat with skilful strokes; his hood was cast back, and his dark hair was blowing in the wind, a light was in his eyes: a king returning from exile to his own land.”

What Robert Bly said could be said of Aragorn, “Where a man’s wound is, that is where his genius will be.” Only when we enter our wound will we discover our true glory. Only in suffering this can we become powerful, honorable…noble.

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aragorn is the best character in the series but i wouldnt want to marry him thats to much to live up to because im not much of a warrior.....i would like to marry faramir i still think that aragorn is a way kewl warrior

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What you all said Sinbearer is very true. What I thought to be a good illustration of Aragorn's character and struggle was the movie clip: Aragorn Destiny, it can be found on Lotr.net. The struggle of Aragorn and his ancerstry is described really good.

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"In our dreams we are hero's. In our dreams we would wish to be courageous and noble, and dignified and passionate and strong. In our dreams we are aspired to be an Aragorn"

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Those are good Will. Very touching and illuminating movie clips! Thanks! There is more to these stories than we shall ever uncover. They are something even above the genius of the author! Pure inspiration!

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Will wrote:
John Rhys-Davies:
"In our dreams we are hero's. In our dreams we would wish to be courageous and noble, and dignified and passionate and strong. In our dreams we are aspired to be an Aragorn"


Thats a very good point. I agree very much. Something about Aragorn which always has made me happy is how he forgives Boromir in the end, and how Boromir excepts him as his king where he had always before rejected him before.

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I also find it interesting, that most girls I've talked to find Aragorn the kind of man they'd like to marry. I mean, you don't hear many women saying they'd like to marry Boromir, at least in my experiences.


How interesting!

I think this is so because Aragorn is the more romantic of the two, and the thing's he did for the woman he loved probably touched their hearts [and mine]. I found Boromir to be more warrior like, and more rough around the edges than Aragorn. Despite of the warrior side of Aragorn he is still the soft hearted boy inside. This tenderness definitely sets him apart from Boromir.


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Aragorn was a kind warrior, but of course that does not change the fact he is bloody awesome in battle :D .


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I have been contemplating Aragorn’s tender side again. What gives him such a deep, thorough, manly love? I think it is leadership with an emphasis on responsibility, duty and sacrifice. Harsh dominance and rank is not the way of a true man.

It is interesting to me that leadership (or headship) is linked to saviorship. And the heart of saviorship is sacrifice. So what makes Aragorn so breathtaking is that he serves instead of “lording it over”.

He colors his leadership in the soft shades of the tender side:

Providing
Protecting
Teaching
Caring
Guiding
Loving
Developing
Freeing
Sacrificing
Leading
Being vulnerable

instead of the harsh tones of the warrior side:

Ruling
Presiding
Directing
Determining
Bossing
Deciding

It really boils down to two words—Aragorn was a servant leader. No man can aspire to be more than that.

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i must agree with you all on this about aragorn as i said before he is one of my avorite character

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in the book i think Aragorns character is awesome!

His character in the book and in the movie are so alike its unbelievable hhahahaha

but i think that he is a bit more sophisticated in the book

i dont know about y'all but thats what i thought

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I believe that in the books Aragorn's character has more depth. You feel that there is something really great about him even though he is just shown as a simple ranger. I do not think that they really achieved this in the movie.

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Aragorn is the rightfull great king of the west,so he has all the best qualities of chivalry and kingship.

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