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Boromir's Departure: Disappointingly Written?
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Author:  Slickman_G [ April 1st, 2007, 6:38 am ]
Post subject:  Boromir's Departure: Disappointingly Written?
I have just finished re-reading the chapter 'Boromir's Departure, and I am still struck with a similar feeling I get every time I read it, Boromir's death was no where near epic enough for the enormity of the moment.
I kinda realised it after the films had been released, where his death was done absolutely brilliantly In my opinion.

Tolkein could have done it so much better, describing his last moments slaying many Orcs, and the arrows penetrating his body, with his final thoughts of regret after trying to get the ring from Frodo. His last words with Aragorn are moving, but it could be so much better.

What do you think?
Author:  ethelfleda [ April 1st, 2007, 9:06 am ]
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^ i think that not all deaths are epic, not even in battle - something tolkien would have learnt as a soldier serving at the battle of the somme. most times, death just happens without a huge song and dance, so i like the way tolkien wrote boromir's death.

in his essay on the poem beowulf, tolkien wrote that beowulf's failing wasn't that he was a bad man, it was that he was an ordinary man (he said something along the lines of "he was a man, and as for many, that was tragedy enough"). i think the same can be said of boromir - at the end of the day, he made his mistake and died because he was just an ordinary man, and so even if the manner in which he was killed was extraordinary (death by orc is hardly common) it makes sense that his actual moment of death should be perfectly ordinary.
Author:  Slickman_G [ April 1st, 2007, 11:21 am ]
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Hmm, interesting points, I suppose I have become accustomed to 'Epic' movie deaths, Boromirs in the film for example. The saving grace is the last words with Aragorn, really moving.
Author:  Aerandir [ April 3rd, 2007, 3:11 am ]
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Yeah, "The Departure of Boromir" was not very disappointing to me. I would probably have enjoyed it more if there was more about the fighting, but it was moving enough without it. I like that chapter a lot.
Author:  Princess of Ithilien [ April 3rd, 2007, 3:47 pm ]
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eowyn of ithilien wrote:
(death by orc is hardly common)


Oh, i dunno about that. After the War of the Ring, I think orcs killed a LOT of people. But still, I don't think Boromir's death was that disappointing.
Author:  ethelfleda [ April 3rd, 2007, 4:06 pm ]
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^ i know death by orc is common in lotr, i just meant in the grand scheme of things - there aren't too many murderous orcs in real life.
Author:  Princess of Ithilien [ April 3rd, 2007, 7:52 pm ]
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Oh. Huh. That makes more sense.




:roll:
Author:  Aerandir [ April 4th, 2007, 9:33 am ]
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Lol @ both of you. :D

Do you mean 'After' or 'During', PoI? You said 'After the War of the Ring,' but that doesn't really make all that much sense, compared to the other.
Author:  Princess of Ithilien [ April 4th, 2007, 1:42 pm ]
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Oh, I meant by the time the War otR was over, a lot of people were killed.
Author:  Aerandir [ April 4th, 2007, 2:00 pm ]
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Okay, that's what I thought you meant. :)
Author:  The Nightingale [ April 10th, 2007, 6:10 am ]
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I liked that chapter. At the time I read LotR for the first time, I wasn't into gore and details of battles, and even still, I think some things should be left to the imagination.
Author:  Firaeya Laisidhiel [ April 23rd, 2007, 6:23 pm ]
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Well, I agree that it wasn't at all "action-packed" but it WAS my favorite chapter in TTT. I loved the whole... calm sadness of it all.
Author:  Tirelen [ May 4th, 2007, 11:07 am ]
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I find myself struggling to stop comparing the book departure to the film departure... but the film managed to make it more emotional and dramatic than the book ever did- but then the book was written so many decades ago, when the style of writing was so different from the styles we are used to now.
Author:  Celebwen [ May 29th, 2007, 10:54 pm ]
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I think Ethelfleda made a few very good points, with which I completely agree.
But I'd like to add that while tolkien gave him and 'ordinary' death, he didn't exclude epicness (if that's a word) from his passing.
The lament that Legolas and Aragorn sing him reflects his strength and the greatness of both his life and death in a way that narration, as such, could never do.
Author:  Alice Cullen [ June 13th, 2007, 5:30 pm ]
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It's not really all that bad. I mean, if your friend died in battle, you wouldn't exactly be talking to them and making it into an epic ... whatever you want to call it.
Author:  Ashwise [ July 12th, 2007, 10:52 am ]
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It was ok.
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