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^Yeah, I agree. If it's final, do you want me to change the first post of the thread with those..."guards"? [Not that anyone reads it anymore... :confuzzled:]

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I don'tknonw if it's final yet, Gwenneth, but I advise from now on you tell those new members to CHECK FIRST POST --- the ability to edit your post is an amazing thing.

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I just want to say that...
Just like the WT can't talk about welcoming for very long, the NC can't talk about Nazgul very long. It just doesn't work.
As for the GW, from what I can read in the first post, it's a club for girls to be random in, not <i>only</i> talking about topics that's got female stuff in them. If that was the case, we couldn't even talk about the guys we like, which is a very girlish thing, but sadly it's not got female stuff in it. It's just guys, no girls, which from what I understand makes it illegal in the GW.
...Does anyone get my point?

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Again, I REALLY wish that I had been more aware of the contents and intent of the making of the Gentlewomen's club but alas, I was under the wrong impression. I really WANT the Gentlewomen's club to be closer to their intended topics of discussion as a Gentlewomen's club. On several occasions, I EASILY came up with topics relating to women but on most of those occasions, members failed to uphold the topic and started again going off-topic.

The Gentlemen's club do the same things, but not the major extent as the ladies. I mean 22 pages vs. almost 800 pages? Please. 800 pages of mindless chatting is overkill. NC club has over 800 pages, but atleast they're ON-TOPIC most of the time.

Nazgul Club / Evil Club was created before I tightened up in the Club section so I merged those together and made the club an overall Evil club --- NOT just a club for Nazgul fans. So they don't NEED to discuss anything Nazguly anymore to be on - topic. I widened the option of topics for them by merging those two clubs together.

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I just get what's on topic for the GW. Cause now we aren't even allowed to talk about our pets...

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Again, I REALLY wish that I had been more aware of the contents and intent of the making of the Gentlewomen's club but alas, I was under the wrong impression. I really WANT the Gentlewomen's club to be closer to their intended topics of discussion as a Gentlewomen's club. On several occasions, I EASILY came up with topics relating to women but on most of those occasions, members failed to uphold the topic and started again going off-topic.



Hmm..well I can say in all honesty I thought it was just a gathering of all the AU females. I didn't realise it was expected we just talk about female things.

It doesn't help of course that there are so many members. Keeping such a huge club with lots of people posting everyday, on topic is going to be hard, mainly as some people which just start talking about their day etc, paying no heed to the on-topic discussion. 'Tis difficult to come up with a solution.

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Indeed, with all the ladies in this forum, the memberlist starts going pretty far down...
I, too, thought it was a place for discussion without the presence of males...which includes anything, really. :erm:

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Hm, I must admit I am split on this topic. :confused: While the WT is dear to me, I agree that we can get "off topic" most of the time. However, as stated by several people, what exactly can the WT talk about and be on topic? How to welcome newbies? Well, most of us know how to do that quite well. We can't just talk about the new people, as that would be gossipy and rude. So a team of sixty-eight people has to simply stand around and discuss welcoming tactics? Brag about how many people they welcomed this week? Seriously, the WT would last, oh, three days. The interest simply wouldn't be there.

Now I have the greatest respect for the forum rules, and take great care not to cross any lines around here. But perhaps some so-called clubs can be considered unique? The WT thread is not hurting anyone, so long as we are making reasonable posts and still contributing to the rest of the forum. We're all human- I'm certain no one here has posted entirely on topic in every single thread they have ever visited. But I know how important it is to keep the balance and respect the rules, without them no good forum can exist.

So I come back to my dilemma, change (and most likely kill) the WT, or allow it to continue? I would love to see the WT remain as is, where members can come together to support each other and remind each other of how important welcoming is to newbies. For without the WT, I doubt as many people would continue to welcome. :confuzzled:

That's my five cents, take it or leave it :)

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The moddies are still discussing it, and I think everyone can be satisfied with the choices... I think. Who knows.

Thanks for the thoughts! :)

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Is it too late for me to throw in some of my own ideas and comments?

As Luth said, I too am still split on this matter. I completely agree that it is necessary to keep threads on topic, however, sometimes that just can't be done all the time.

The Welcoming Team was set up as place for welcomers to meet, discuss their day, update others on when they'll be on the forum, etc. It's impossible for us to stay on topic all the time with so many members and really, I don't see a problem with on thread devoted to more than just one topic.

We would never be able to move the Welcoming Team [or any other thread thereof] into the Misc. Random. section because of the fact that we aren't making random posts. We do have topics to talk about and they are always more than one or two words.

I really have nothing to say concerning other clubs such as the GW club or the NC. It's impossible to stay on topic there too. There are so many members and so many things to discuss that I doubt we'd ever be able to stay on one specific topic for very long. I mean, look who your dealing with, a bunch of mostly teenage girls. What can you expect?

But really, we'll try our hardest to come up with some kind of topic to talk about if worse comes to worse.


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^Well, I wouldn't say every post in the WT thread has more than 2 or 3 words. I have gone skimming through the pages to find a "Hi, everyone!" or "what's the topic?" And this is irksome to me, for reasons including that it clogs up the thread and causes members to miss important announcements.

Right now I think I'd prefer it if we just tightened up on the no one-worded posts or "substanceless" posts.

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I think one thing many people seem to forget at times is the Club section is meant to be that, about clubs.

As defined by Webster's: "Club- an association of persons for some common object usually jointly supported and meeting periodically; also : a group identified by some common characteristic 'nations in the nuclear club'"

or for those fans of Wikipedia, they define it as "generally an association of people united by a common interest or goal, "


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Clubs are meant to be focused, like it or not. They're meant to revolve around a common goal, topic, interest.... not a myriad of them. The gentlewoman's club and others were started under the understanding they would be just that...centered on a comman theme. Not a place to chat, discuss your everydays and so on... (there are other places in the forum and elsewhere on the site to do that) Now please, I'm not trying to offend anyone, just clarify what is meant by our club section on A-U. I know that for example the NC and GW have tons of members...which is awesome! But, to keep it fair for all of our many, many clubs...we have to come up with a way for them to stay on a general topic. Again, little steps out of line aren't bad...but the majority, at least 80% or more of a club's posts should be related to the name/interest of that club. That's my understanding of what is meant by that section of the forum, and I agree with it.

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If the Welcoming Team wish to update and say when they're going to be on, i doubt thats necessary, and when they'll be away, isn't there a thread in the "Your Life" section for that? I know the NC and the WC get off topic(i try to stay on topic as much as possible, but my mind wanders with my on topicness sometimes) and im wondering what the real purpose for the WT thread is. If its just a list of members that can be PMed by new members, or what?


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Well as the GW and NC go off topic quite a bit much you could ask what their point in life is. As it stands, the WT is a thread where we welcomers can socialise together, talk about all manner of things, and we do discuss various weloming things, especially if something new has come up.

Basically, if there's been a surge of newbies, after welcoming them all we can go to the WT, put our feet up and say "wow, there's lots of new people joining" today. It's the only place we can do that, that isn't posting in a thread where people will say "WT? What are you on about?". Posting WT topics anywhere else would be completely pointless, as most of the WT members probably won't see it.

Maybe new people reading the thread may be enouraged to post a welocming speech if they see that we don't bite and that AU isn't such a scary place. *shugs* I don't know. I can't think of anything else to say. I think every possible question must have risen and ben answered by now.

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(wow, i have no idea to voice what i want to say without sounding mean... :blink: )


But do the Welcoming members need to put their feet up and say that, its not like welcoming is a physically nor mentally exhaustive task is it? And how many ways can you welcome someone, this is sounding reall accusing and mean, but i dont want it to be, so please, dont take offence.


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Ah, but that's one of the hardest things about welcoming - how do you make each person feel at home without posting like you copy and paste every message? How can you each time make it different?

But anyway, that's not what were here to discuss. :P

The only way I can describe the WT is this - we have all formed (just like I'm sure many members of clubs and old threads) a strong bond, which originated because we like to help new people. If we posted in the WT but ignored the newbies than I'd say having the thread is making things worse. But it isn't. It's having the opposite affect. More people are welcomimg now, I believe because that thread is there, and that close community is there. And people want to be a part of that, so they are benefiting new people as well as themselves.

We can start talking about specific topics that are given to us, if that's what people want, but if were made to discuss "welcoming"? Well....I think we all know what will happen..

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