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PostPosted: November 27th, 2006, 8:32 pm 
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hey!

i write fanfictions myself and there are a FEW of us with a little dignity!

i try to keep all fanfictions i write to a certain standard. i keep canon charries in character, and really try not to have mary sue/marty stu in my stories. almost always my OCs are careful balances that make him/her believeable.

unless it's supposed to be that way and i'm having a ball poking fun. then i go nuts. lol! :P

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lol...

i haven't written many fanficts...or at least not in a while...but the girl lovey-dovey thing...

yeah, i have to agree with LDM and SG on this one, m8te...

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URG! I KNOW! I haaaaate that! Mary-sue earth/ME crossover self-insertion joins the fellowship and falls in love with Lego fics are HORRRRIIIIIBLE!!!!!!!! *fumes* GAAH!


Oddly enough, I actually found one of that sort that was a good read. I believe it was actually on the A-U main site (has a bad memory). It was very decidedly a Mary-Sue fic, but the quality of the writing made up for it, in my opinion. It was an engaging plotline, very well-written dialogue, and not too insufferable of a Sue.
As much as I dislike Mary-Sues, I do make exceptions. There are characters in real fiction with Mary-Sue-like characteristics (Eowyn, anyone?), so as long as the creator has actually put some thought and planning into the character, a Mary-Sue can occasionally be tolerated. I have a character that is, by every possible definition of the word, a Mary-Sue (though I very, very rarely roleplay her). But, I've also had many people tell me how much they like that character because I actually took the time to think out explanations and details for her. She doesn't defy canon; she just fits in the gaps.

But aye, as a general rule, I dislike any kind of self-insertion plots.


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PostPosted: November 27th, 2006, 10:20 pm 
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those i dislike, but really, there are a select few fanfiction authors with a scrap of dignity to them. honest.

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Most of the time I am disgusted by Mary Sues. But there are those times where I am with my fellow LotR buddy. We make fun of them then. I also like Mary Sue Parodies where the author intentionaly cooks up a character so Mary sue that normally we all want to boil our eyeballs, then pretty much makes fun of the Mary Sue all through out the story.


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can i join? i love role-playing! it helps me with my stories and character development as well as plot development.

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Hawt Chocolate! wrote:
those i dislike, but really, there are a select few fanfiction authors with a scrap of dignity to them. honest.


Oh, I completely agree. I'm one of them. ;)

But that's probably better discussed in the Writer's Club than the RPers Guild.


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lol. There are some terrible fanfics out there... but there are some terribly good ones as well, although usually not written by jr/sr highschoolers. I admit to writing a few when I have time - feel free to follow the link in my sig and constructively abuse. One thing I do insist on is a degree of originality, which Mary Sue do not fill.

Re Aerandir's post, I'm sure some fanfics and charries would have authors turning in their graves. But there may be a select few that would have someone smacking their head and saying "why didn't I think of that?" We are, after all, only human.

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Lol, I agree with that. I feel kind of bad for any authors who do read fanfics about their own stories, though, because the number of poorly done ones is far greater than the good ones.

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Yeah, lol here is my fic rating system:

OMG! You need to find a publisher, NOW! (one in a million)

Wow! That was great! You should really think about investing in some writing courses! Great job! *thumbs up*

This is really great! There are a few typos, and some minor plot issues, but otherwise, you are on you way to a great writer!

Hm. It was ok, a little MSish for my liking... Along with typos. I advise a spellcheck, mabye a beta reader, and try and get rid of the MS symptoms.

Ok, this was VERY MSish, and you need to work on grammar and spelling. I don't think I can say anymore that you will not get from later reviewers.

O.o .... You're new here, arn't you?

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Do you ever find that typos and spelling/grammar errors can completely ruin a story for you? I do. If I open a page and I can't even see where the first paragraph ends, I'm out of there before I even read it. It's very off-putting.

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Same here... ugh. I am VERY guilty for typos, but not on that scale. *hugs spellcheck*

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Oh, yes. typos in any kind of story or narrative tell me that the author hasn't seriously applied himself to making a story readable. Honest mistakes are understandable, but ruin the reading because the reader homes in on the errors, breaking the narrative flow.

I'm a grammar freak, as I think I've mentioned before. :D

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grammar isn't to bad, it depends on where the author is from. you must keep in mind some authors are from other countries. ;)

spelling is different, slightly. I can't stand it when people use the wrong word. (ex: there instead of their)

Formatting is intirely different. If it's not formatted at least a little bit and you can't see where one quote ends and another begins, I give up and don't read.

I also hate it when they use dashes or something instead of quotation marks. :blink: why they do that is beyond me.

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I know the "there, there" thing you're talking about. Whay really irks me is the "your you're" When people write "Your awesome!" I want to shoot somthing!


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I agree with that too!

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