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Post subject: lord denethor Posted: September 8th, 2006, 4:58 pm |
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When lord denethor gets set on fire he runs straight past the fountain... why doesn't he just dive in? Why run past it to throw himself off the edge?
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Post subject: Posted: September 8th, 2006, 6:29 pm |
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heh...i see your point, but in the book i think that there was no fountain, and he just died....so they just cant make him live this movie....it would be weird
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Post subject: Posted: September 8th, 2006, 11:25 pm |
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Denethor had gone crazy. he was completely mad. Also, he was on fire. There was no way he was going to take the time to look around him and go, "Oh! Water! It can put out the flames!" He was in complete anguish. He wanted to die quickly. He did it the first way he saw how through his insanity and his pain.
At least this is my opioion on it. But feel free to disagree.
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Post subject: Posted: September 9th, 2006, 10:17 am |
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lol i havent read the third book so that would explain why i didnt know about there being no fountain
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Post subject: Posted: September 9th, 2006, 9:46 pm |
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Good question. To answer it I will say that Denethor was mad. Utterly, and completely mad. He was gone. His wife was dead, he thought that both of his sons were dead, and his country was falling into ruin and war. There was nothing for him to live for anymore. Basically, he commited suicide.
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Post subject: Posted: September 9th, 2006, 10:52 pm |
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Larael wrote: Good question. To answer it I will say that Denethor was mad. Utterly, and completely mad. He was gone. His wife was dead, he thought that both of his sons were dead, and his country was falling into ruin and war. There was nothing for him to live for anymore. Basically, he commited suicide.
What she said. Correct and hitting it on the nose as usual Larael. Also, don't you think it would have driven him even more crazy to see his son stir, to see that he was actually alive when he thought he was dead? Combine that and being in extreme pain from fire, plus everything Larael said, and you have one very disturbed Steward who probably just wants to get out of this world as soon as possible.
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Post subject: Posted: September 10th, 2006, 9:06 pm |
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Aww... I'm just statin' the facts dear.
Tinuviel's Tears wrote: Also, don't you think it would have driven him even more crazy to see his son stir, to see that he was actually alive when he thought he was dead?
Definitely. Denethor might have thought that he was actually killing his own son. That'd be enough to drive any parent over the edge. You've also got to remember that Pip was kind of ticking him off by trying to save Faramir in the first place.
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Post subject: Posted: September 11th, 2006, 3:52 pm |
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^ No problem! *huggles Larael back* just giving credit where credit is due!
Yeah. Poor Pip. He was only trying to save Faramir's life, and no one wanted to listen to him! I always feel so bad for him at those parts! And then he has to go off into the big scary battle to get Gandalf. Poor little hobbit. I love Pippin.
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Post subject: Posted: September 15th, 2006, 3:16 pm |
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Denothoer shuld have just Stoped Droped and Roled!! Jk!!!
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Post subject: Posted: September 15th, 2006, 4:13 pm |
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Nice one Th'wayla! I guess they just didn't have the safety programs that we have today!
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Post subject: Posted: September 15th, 2006, 4:40 pm |
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HAha!!! I kow i had to say that!!!
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Post subject: Posted: September 15th, 2006, 5:15 pm |
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I think he may have been too covered in flame for stop drop and roll to work, but who knows? I guess we never will.
*feels guilt about the brevity of this post*
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Post subject: Posted: September 15th, 2006, 8:14 pm |
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hey i like ur banners!!!!^^^
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Post subject: Posted: September 15th, 2006, 9:05 pm |
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Thank you very much! I love Frodo, in case you haven't figured that out. Your banners are quite pretty as well!
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Post subject: Posted: September 17th, 2006, 10:33 pm |
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Thanks!!!
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Post subject: Posted: September 18th, 2006, 3:38 pm |
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You're welcome of course. But I think we need to steer this thread back on topic.
Erm........ my opinion has already been said by Larael. Denethor bascially committed suicide. I wonder though. Do you think he would have killed himself if he hadn't looked into the Palantir and been shown false thigns about his future. I don't I think then at least he would have hada hope of something to live for. This is another case where a character is overly confident in themselves, has false pride, and gets his reward in the end. This is a reoccuring theme thoughout Tolkien's works.
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