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Post subject: Posted: February 2nd, 2006, 11:47 pm |
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Joined: 10 September 2005 Posts: 5839 Location: P3X-774, Rohan, Moya, or my TARDIS
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Yes, definatley. He took him blindfolded to the cave, but that was only because they didn't want others to know where it was. While they were there, Faramir treated him so kindly. He gave him a nice supper and all. But in the movie.......He's a jerk!
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Post subject: Posted: March 19th, 2006, 4:19 pm |
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Joined: 22 December 2005 Posts: 1363 Location: The gap between dimensions
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He was indeed nicer in the books..
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Post subject: Posted: March 20th, 2006, 8:46 am |
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Joined: 09 January 2006 Posts: 175 Location: UK, West Midlands
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Ellethiel wrote: I think it's difficult to say one is better than the other - they're both so different. Book Faramir is aa lot morenoble, but I can understand PJ's reasoning behind the book change.
really? i can't... could you share that with us Ellethiel ?
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Post subject: Posted: April 11th, 2006, 3:20 pm |
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Joined: 22 December 2005 Posts: 1363 Location: The gap between dimensions
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Aye, they are different. But in ROTK, they fixed it.
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Post subject: Posted: April 18th, 2006, 8:07 pm |
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^ True. It was much better in RotK. But I wish they had put in more about Faramir and Eowyn!! I know there is some in the EE.... but still....
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Post subject: Posted: April 19th, 2006, 12:39 pm |
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I wish they had generally more things about everything but....
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Post subject: Posted: April 20th, 2006, 1:10 am |
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^ Lol. True, true, very true. I have said it a million times, and I will say it again- PJ could have made each movie 20 hours long, and I would be all the more happy.
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Post subject: Posted: April 20th, 2006, 6:59 pm |
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Yeah....just think of it. Instead of a LotR marathon that lasted 12 hours, you'd have one that lasted a day and a half! Sweet!
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Post subject: Posted: April 20th, 2006, 8:12 pm |
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Oh, that would be incredible!! We have to get PJ to film all the stuff he left out.... any ideas for convincing him??
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Post subject: Posted: May 5th, 2006, 4:32 pm |
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Joined: 28 April 2006 Posts: 100 Location: California
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The way I've always justified the differences have been that the book Faramir was indeed an "almost-Aragorn" He had a lot of the same qualities, mercy, nobility of purpose, and keen insight into people and motivations. If they "lowered" him a little in the movies, it was probably only because in the movie, there's no need to have another "Aragorn", because there's no time on to explain all about the kings and stewards and the huge historical backstory that you get when you read the book.
In terms of the movie, PJ and Fran Walsh did preserve the same qualities, but they show up in a different order. Some of them show up early, some of them later, rather than all in one chapter. This was undoubtedly done for dramatic effect. Not everyone had ever read the books who saw the movie, and it preserved some kind of element of surprise for them.
Faramir does let Frodo go, just not in the same location
Faramir does understand what is at stake, he just doesn't voice it in Henneth Annun.
Faramir does resist temptation
He does defy his father and is scorned.
If anything, both Aragorn and Faramir were made more three dimensional and accessible to theater audiences by the way they were scripted. I'm as much a purist as anyone, but the changes, in my opinion, were justifiable.
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Post subject: Posted: July 17th, 2006, 1:50 pm |
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Joined: 24 May 2006 Posts: 707 Location: Middle Earth
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Well i think that in the book farimir was alot nicer but i think the reson in the movie why the made farimir sorta of mean is cuz i think that they need something for frodod and sam to have trouble with something!!!! But that is just me!!!
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Post subject: Posted: July 17th, 2006, 9:11 pm |
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With Faramir the movies deviated way to much from the books. That's baaaaad.
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Post subject: Posted: July 19th, 2006, 9:20 pm |
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Joined: 02 December 2005 Posts: 344 Location: britain
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book faramir knew frodo had the ring and said he would not pick it up if he found it by the road side.somebody shouted "what?"in the cinema when he took them to minas tirith.its one thing the movie got so wrong
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Post subject: Posted: July 28th, 2006, 7:33 am |
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Post subject: Posted: July 28th, 2006, 11:40 am |
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: The changes made to Faramir were a necessary part of the plot development. Nothing would really have been achieved by Frodo and Sam meeting a nice guy who goes, "Aww, have to destroy a ring? That's too bad. Here, have some food." Not memorable at all. Whereas, in the movie: 1) We learn how Faramir desperately wants his father's approval, 2) We are even more impressed with him than we would have been if they had followed the book, because he lets Frodo and Sam go, KNOWING that he could have won his father's love if he had taken them to Minas Tirith. So really, this alteration of the book is more of a compliment to Faramir's characters. It makes him memorable, and you can sympathize with him.
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Post subject: Posted: July 28th, 2006, 8:44 pm |
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Joined: 25 July 2006 Posts: 36 Location: Middle-Earth
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i think i like the book farimir better than the movie one,he ws more of a character and not just another dude with some lines,he was more understanding of frodos quest
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