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 Post subject: Re: The Disney Appreciation Thread [Tangled]
PostPosted: April 6th, 2011, 12:38 am 
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Hahahaha MB, that was an EPIC response! How long did it take you to write? And I think you DO have epic hair! Trust me on this, everyone - it is totally epic Rapunzel-worthy.

Re Mother Gothel, add me to the list of people who thought she was an intriguing character. However, I thought she was intriguing not because, as some of you said, I thought she was a not-that-bad person, but because I found it really fascinating that her villainy was all about the emotional abuse. Maybe I'm going too psychoanalysis on a Disney movie, but the way she talks Rapunzel out of wanting to leave the tower is so incredibly abusive that it was a little painful to hear if you got at the message rather than the fun animation and singing. And the scene when Rapunzel first leaves the tower and swings back and forth between shrieking for joy and crying her eyes out at Mother Gothel's reaction - well, yeah, it's meant to be funny. And it is, if you just take it as part of the story. But it's also really, really disturbing on a damaged-psyche level :erm:

That totally wasn't a criticism of the movie - actually it's my form of phrase, stating why I found Mother Gothel so intriguing, above and beyond the average villain. But that's my explanation of why I found her equally villainous, just in a very different way.

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 Post subject: Re: The Disney Appreciation Thread [Tangled]
PostPosted: April 6th, 2011, 2:10 pm 
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Tangled was great. Initially i wasnt too sure if it would be any good but after watching it I changed my mind straight away.
Amazing songs, entertaining characters and a decent plot. i agree that the stepmothers role was a good one and i like that they stepped out of the usual expectations of the stepmother.
The character that was the most entertaining for me would have to be Pascelle. He's such a little badass, had me cracking up for most of the movie.

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 Post subject: Re: The Disney Appreciation Thread [Tangled]
PostPosted: April 11th, 2011, 2:27 am 
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Re Mother Gothel, add me to the list of people who thought she was an intriguing character. However, I thought she was intriguing not because, as some of you said, I thought she was a not-that-bad person, but because I found it really fascinating that her villainy was all about the emotional abuse. Maybe I'm going too psychoanalysis on a Disney movie, but the way she talks Rapunzel out of wanting to leave the tower is so incredibly abusive that it was a little painful to hear if you got at the message rather than the fun animation and singing. And the scene when Rapunzel first leaves the tower and swings back and forth between shrieking for joy and crying her eyes out at Mother Gothel's reaction - well, yeah, it's meant to be funny. And it is, if you just take it as part of the story. But it's also really, really disturbing on a damaged-psyche level :erm:

That totally wasn't a criticism of the movie - actually it's my form of phrase, stating why I found Mother Gothel so intriguing, above and beyond the average villain. But that's my explanation of why I found her equally villainous, just in a very different way.


This. The manipulative, emotional abuse - just gaaaah. I know Gothel's motivations are pure selfish vanity - she just wants Rapunzel's hair to stay young. But sometimes I can't help but wonder if she was being genuine - the "I love you." "I love you more." "I love you most" lines just killed me with that!

Mother Knows Best has definitely earned its place as one of my favorite Disney villain songs. -nodnod- I always noticed how manipulative Gothel was during that song - she paints the world as a horrible, scary place and then makes sure that she's the only safe place that Rapunzel has. It's horribly evil of her.

Does...does it make me a freak that I find Mother Gothel intriguing because of that?

Also, I love her character design. :goofy: All the character designs are gorgeous, though. And the whole movie is just so pretty and beautiful and gorgeous and - aaaah I love it! I really really love this movie. Very very much.

I love that Rapunzel's an artist. XD

And Pascal, ahahah, how can you NOT love Pascal?

Flynn and Maximus - I cracked up at every one of their scenes together. "You should know that this is the weirdest thing I have ever done!"

The only disappointment I had was that the instrumental tracks on the soundtrack seemed a bit mediocre. But 'Kingdom Dance' made up for that, yes it did.

/disjointed thoughts of disjointed-ness

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 Post subject: Re: The Disney Appreciation Thread [Tangled]
PostPosted: April 18th, 2011, 8:03 pm 
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@teh Almighty Arweb: :lol: I took longer than it should have, but I blame that on my computer and how annoyingly fickle it is and basically does whatever it wants. Epic-Rapunzel-worthy, eh? :P

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"...her villainy was all about the emotional abuse..."


THIS. Exactly. That's exactly what it was. So damaging on a psychological level. Which makes her such a greatly different villian of Disney's. Disney is really good at making Psychotic Evil Doers, but Gothel was the best of the manipulative, nonviolent Bad Guys.

As child-oriented and fun and happy and rainbows and unicors as Disney outwardly presents itself, they are masters at the subliminally scary and evil. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: The Disney Appreciation Thread [Tangled]
PostPosted: May 4th, 2011, 1:33 am 
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Just wanted to drop by and show you guys my second cousins birthday cake:


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And she had matching cupcakes. She turned five and absolutely adores this movie. Pascal is clearly her favourite. :)


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 Post subject: Re: The Disney Appreciation Thread [Tangled]
PostPosted: May 4th, 2011, 5:23 pm 
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MAXIMUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yeah, I kinda love Maximus... I think the scene at the end with the rest of the soldiers holding the frying pans and him trying to be sly about eating that apple really got to me.. :bounce:


Anyway, I fricking LOVE Tangled. Unfortunately, I didn't get to see it in the cinema because I had no money when it was out (I hate being a student :disgust: ). But, my very naughty friend saved the day and he may or may not have given me a DVD of it in December... :whistle: (Which doesn't actually help as I haven't been able to watch DVDs since February :grr: )

Anyway, I think you might have realised that I love Maximus. I do like Pascal but Maximus wins hands down.

Regarding the frying pan... Please tell me I wasn't the only one who kept yelling "embrace your inner Sam!" at the screen? Please? Or at least that you thought along similar lines.. :blush:

Now I would type more but instead I'm going to go look on amazon to see if I can pre-order the DVD (I think it's released 32rd May or something) and get the soundtrack... I love having an amazon gift-card.. No guilt about spending money! :D

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 Post subject: Re: The Disney Appreciation Thread [Tangled]
PostPosted: February 28th, 2012, 10:07 pm 
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Has anybody seen the movie shorts that they play before some movies at the theater? Its all about Maximus and Pascal and it's really cute. It sparked a rewatching session of Tangled! =)

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