I think it's much more complicated than what we see. Remember, the books belong to the C.S. Lewis Estate, so permission rights have to be obtained really before a script can be written, I believe. Except, Doug Gresham *Lewis' stepson* has been an executive producer on both films, and probably this one as well, so I feel better with that.

Yes, I daresay Ben's gone up in price. lol. And let's not forget about Walden Media...they have to approve this thing fully as well as Disney. There's a lot that goes into a film, and I don't think any other film(s) will be made like LotR. I don't see that being repeated any.

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Jax: I am a huge purist, and some things about PC really made me upset (as I'm sure Callish can attest to) but from a movie viewers standpoint I can understand SOME of the changes. Not all. *grumbles* But you really should watch it before passing judgement.

And they really couldn't do the film simultaneously/release a year later like they did with LotR because there is so much down time in between. The actors and characters grow older. (Granted, not 3 years older, but you get the idea. Besides, 3 years looks in movies to be about 1 or so, so..) A year passed between LWW and PC, and then at least another (maybe more) between PC and VoDT. After all, Aslan does tell Lucy and Ed that they're getting too old as well. Which had it been only one year, they wouldn't be that old. I imagine it was a few years between the two. So it kind of makes sense that filming would need to be at different times.

I expect VoDT will be pretty darn awesome except for Caspian being so old. I think I'm most looking forward to the Dufflepuds. Since we have good special effects, they ought to be great.


I know! Skandar keeps getting more and more amazing. *drools to think about what it'll be like if they make HHB* He really owns the role of Ed.

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Well, like I said before. I know it will be a good movie, but it may just not be the "Same" movie. And when they do a re-maek I like to see the same movie, just better. *shrugs*

That's just my opinion. I'm not saying the story-line is bad, or the actors and actresses did a bad job... i think they did a great job, it's just not what I want to see if they deviate to far from the books.

And I have watched LWW with comentary. *shrugs*

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I thought I'd just carry this over here in a Narnia place instead of carrying it on in the WT.

I think you reall ought to read the book. It's excellent (as all the Narnia books are). Caspian is at most a year younger than Peter. In the book it says something to the extent of "Peter saw [a werewolf] jumping at a fair haired boy about his own age". Suspian is wrong in any case though, even if they are similar in age. Because, technically, Susan is about 1000 years older anyway, given time differences in Narnia. And there's the whole Caspian looking up to and being in awe of the rulers of Old. And the whole bit where they don't even see each other except for about a day. But as I've ranted on this subject often, I think I'll stop there. Granted, the Peter/Caspian hatred was a little excessive as well.

The thing about these movies is that they are movies based off of the books. They are not remakes. Both the BBC and Disney drew from Lewis' writings, Disney didn't draw from the BBC. It's the same thing as the animated LotR and PJ's LotR. Not remakes. So you really can't go into watching these expecting them to be the same as the BBC, because they won't be. They aren't trying to be.

Though what it all boils down to is opinion and point of view. And saying someone's opinion is wrong is kind of pointless. So.

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I meant you should watch PC with the commentary. Honestly, I think some people get too carried away with what's different, they make up their mind to hate it, and they tell other people to hate it as well, even without seeing it. I'm thankful that I didn't listen to anybody, nor do I listent o anyone who tells me it's terrible, I love the books, but to be honest, PC was very hard to adapt for screen.

It's like LOTR; the amount of material had to be adapted in such a way as not to bore the audience to death or to the point of where they'd walk out.

I will be defending the cast\crew no matter what because I'm not as biased as some. I don't make a judgment based on someone's opinions. I feel bad for the cast\crew if they read stuff like this because they know that we *or some of us* don't understand. I bet if you could have a face-to-face talk with Adamson or Gresham, you might not be so hating towards the film. and Nurr, I agree with the fact that we shouldn't expect something to be a remake because they aren't.

I've seen clips *and trust me, those are enough to make me want to kill myself* of the BBC movies. *shudders*. They're boring and ridiculous.

I'm not saying someone's opinion is wrong. What I AM saying is that someone shouldn't judge a movie off someone else's negative or positive view.

but apparently, nobody considers the fact that there are people who've seen this stuff who have never been introduced to the books. How can we expect them to follow the story if they don't know it to begin with? It'd be stupid *yes very stupid* for the makers to make a film that's word-for-word, scene-for-scene from the book. Heck, Narnia fan that I am, I'd be walking out of the theater. If you honestly admit it, we book fans are in the minority. The movie-watching audience is in the majority. Let's try to be a bit more understanding about how these films are written.

Until then, I'm staying out of these threads. I am getting tired of having to repeat myself.

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*sighs* ok... I'm not goign to go on about this forever because it seems your gettign a tad worked up. Let me clarify a few things for you.


I have nothign against the cast or crew, thus you have no need to defend them.


I am not judging by someone else's opinion, I am stating my own opinion. And it's that, nothing more, simply my opinion.

You say you don't like the BBC Narnia, but I did. Opinions differ and I coudl as easily defend the BBC as you are the re-makes but I feel no need to do that because I understand other people have different views.

If I had a face to face talk witht eh guys I would simply tell them. "It's a good movie, well done and excelently acted. However, I personaly would have prefered that you stuck closer to the book."

And it wouldn't be hard for a person to watch the movie and folow the story line bnecausethey had never heard of it before if they collowed the book. After all, they had never heard of the story line used that didn't follow the book either. It's the same either way.

Once again. I don't have anything against the movie, the cast, the crew, or anybody who lies it etc... I simply would have liked to see them stick closer to the book, that's it.

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I just heard that. I wasn't too happy about it, but hopefully they get a new partner and it doesn't delay the film too much.

If they had advertised correctly for PC, I think the box office would have been better. So I hope they do better for VoDT. They needed to focus more on the Pevensies coming back, since those would have been familiar to audiences. As it was, I'm pretty sure non-book readers were clueless as to why there were these people they somewhat recognized, and then nothing more about them.

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I thought they did all right advertising PC... I mean... I liked it enough.

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I don't know how Disney can say Prince Caspian did poorly.
Yes, domestically it didn't break budget. But worldwide it doubled the budget.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=narnia2.htm
Who knows how much more money will line the pockets of Disney execs with the dvd sales of Prince Caspian.

Disney are fools! Utter utter fools for letting this franchise go imo.

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They are indeed. I don't think I've ever been so disappointed in them. And personally, I found Prince Caspian massively better than LWW.

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Well, the worst that can happen is a delayed release date. I hope they get another producer soon, though. VoDT is my favorite book in the Narnia series, and I am highly anticipating the movie...

I think they could've done a little better with the advertising. They focused a tad too much on Caspian, a character that most people didn't know yet.

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I agree Kit, PC was MUCH better than LWW. I actually enjoyed PC (except for the Susan/Caspian romance) from beginning to end. I was mainly upset throughout LWW.

Who cares if it didn't do "well" in the US? They got their money's worth worldwide so why are they complaining? I don't get it.

For the franchize's sake and above all for all the fans' sake, I hope they'll still be able to continue making the rest of the books.

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I forget the time difference between PC and Dawn Treader. Isn't it something like another year, year and a half?

At this point, there's no way they could recast Lucy and Edmund. I think they've grown enough that they can pull off the age they are. I mean, after something like Caspian? The man does not look 13-14. xD

Besides. I will be heartbroken if they took away Skandar. Just heartbroken.

If they do decide to give Susan and Peter a cameo. It's just win. It would be amazing for Anna Popplewell to appear just for Lucy's spell scene, like Tilda Swinton who appeared for what? 5 minutes? Tilda's a big name, so the fact that she signed on for a whopping 5 minutes is brilliant. I hope Anna Popplewell does something in the same light. I can also see them doing a little "check in on them" scene at the very beginning when Lucy and Edmund explain where they are. A little reply to a possible question from Caspian, "So how are your brother and sister?"

I can just imagine...

Lucy: (voiceover) Peter's locked up all summer with Professor Kirke, but I fancy he's enjoying it all.

(shot of Peter rummaging around Kirke's library)

Lucy: (voiceover) And Su's off visiting the Americas. Oh, that's just another country from where we're from.

(transition shot of Peter, and the camera glides around the end of a bookcase and it turns into a streetlight pole and we see Susan looking around at New York)


It's just a nice, maybe not even 15 second thing just to keep the characters all remembered and knitted together. =]

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If they got rid of Skandar, they'd have people rioting in the streets.

I don't think it's ever said how much of a time difference there is, but I always thought of it as a couple years. And yeah, cameos of Peter and Susan is really cool. PD, I see what you mean with it being good that Disney is leaving. Mayhap we'll even get Horse and His Boy!

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