Honestly, it's one of the highlights of my week. The buzz for a 4th one had died down so much the past few months I was thinking maybe they weren't going to do it, but I am pleasantly surprised. What can I say? I really really really would enjoy some more Jack and Barbossa - AND another chance to go to the movie theater in pirate garb.

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For pete’s good sake, everybody! You are all my heroes! You think about PotC almost exatly like I do! I mean, just everything that has been said was what I was thinking of saying myself for the most part... so that cuts down my post's size.



^Darky, that was all pure... AMAZING! Like, you read my mind for all of it. I so want Jack to be normal like he is at the end of AWE... or at least more sane and not a bunch of Jacks walking all over. not boring or anything, but still.

I agree with you there too. I really, really want Gore, T&T and Jerry to be a part of it since they all played such huge roles in making the Pirates movies what they are. just wouldn’t feel right without them, IMO. And they know what they’re doing... They should know not to chuck some stupid sci-fi or some other un PotC-y thing at us. I've got a fair amount of trust/faith in them.

Lol, yeah, Ara, at this rate, I wouldn’t be surprised if Pirates did turn out like that… Go Pirate Love!

TT, hehe, I was wondering when you’d come on and hear about this. Isn’t it awesome?

I agree, Frodofan. I was starting to think that it would never happen too… so long as several things go right in the movie, this is completely awesome. And I can't wait to follow the progress of the filming and to go on spoiler hunts again! huzzah! it’s kicked me back into my Pirates Obsession, I think. Lol

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I would use a different word to describe it... but hey! Amusing...

I honestly doutb that I'll go see this one... But you never know.

Whoa, am I the only one who'd like to see Will and Elizabeth back? I'm a little disappointed that they're not - the pairing has always been one of my favorite parts of the trilogy. Jack is amazing, yes, but he's basically always the same. Ends up the same, anyway. Will and Elizabeth provide that emotional side.

As for Mary Read and Anne Bonny - no. That sounds way too much like a Mary-Sue PotC fanfic for my liking. Women pirates are very rare, and we've already had Elizabeth (who was no less than the pirate king) and briefly Anna Maria.

I also don't really want Will Jr. in it. That, too, smacks of fanfic. They should either totally leave W/E, maybe add in a nostalgic eunuch joke, or totally bring them back in.

The movie has potential. But it also has potential to be bad and repetitive

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TT, of course awesome is the word to describe it though (although if it's stupid it might not be... we'll deal with that when we get there though)! amusing? are you alluding to something here? Or is it just me?

You should go see it… by the time it comes out you’ll be hooked! I just know it… because your Obsession Role Model ish here to support you.

no, no! Don’t get me wrong at least, Melda… I would LOVE to have Will and Elizabeth back. That would be amazing since I adore Willabeth and I like both characters separately too. I mean, to me they help to make up PotC… without them it will lose some of it’s charm and draw, but I’m hoping the storyline and Barbossa ect will be able to pull me through and it will flow without them and it will feel right without them. I'll still be sad, but yeah... I totally agree with you. I love the depth and emotion Will and Liz bring to the stories.

Meh, I don’t think I want Will Jr. in it… for the reasons which have already been stated. Just wouldn’t work.


^yeppers. You are very right, Melda... I share your thought exactly:yes:

Oh, oh, YES, JF, if Barbossa is in it Jack the Monkey is a MUST!

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*sigh*^And Disney promised that they wouldn't do more sequels...those cowards liars.

Well, for me, if they want to do a sequel, prequel, what-the-name-quel, do this:
Eliminate the plot ideas of Jules Verne, dinosaurs, Nemo, and BlackBeard. All those elements are out of place and historically innacurate.

Very Jack, monkey, crew and Barbossa centric (yes W/E is gone, and their little son too. Sorry fans, for me their story ended at AWE, and besides, Disney said that they lived happily ever after. Liza broke the curse waiting the first ten years and Will later lived with them, free)

Comedy and adventure elements. No drama.

A simple but efective story. No side-plots or plot-holes.

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Yeah but Jules Verne- themed elements? Dinosaurs?
If I'm right, POTC is taken place in the 18 century. Historians would get their panties in a wad.

(and yes, I know these films are 'fantasy', but you can't be that extreme by putting elements of other centuries)

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I think it's set in the 17th century.

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I'm pretty sure historians stopped caring about PotC quite some time ago. I don't think it has a set date. Besides, logically, things like the Flying Dutchman and Davy Jones and the Brethren Court and etc never existed, so I'm pretty sure nobody but sci-fi haters would complain if they had that in there.

That said, I'm not in favor of it either. Like I said, needs to be new and interesting but definitely not ridiculous, and they can't look like they're trying too hard. PotR and I were discussing the possibility that they might do a prequel, and then appeals to me, because then we can have more story without the W/E baggage. Worked for Star Wars

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I somehow doubt it will be a prequel.

I think half the charm of PotC though is that it's borderline fantasy.

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Regarding the possibility of a sequel, here are my thoughts:

They're not going to do the kid thing. Johnny's already signed on for it, so it simply wouldn't make sense. (Not to mention the fact that the Young Jack Sparrow books have already somewhat covered that, albeit poorly.)

However, in the original script, there was a good bit of information regarding Jack's history with the EITC. Not just one scene, like the Calypso/Davy stuff, but scattered throughout the entire plot. And given that it was even more relevant to the story than Calypso/Davy (after all, it kinda explains why the two main villains are trying to kill Jack), I was somewhat shocked that almost every last bit of it was taken out from the various scenes. Now, I'm well aware that the powers that be stopped relying on logic quite some time ago, but logically the only reason to do this would be if they were planning on possibly incorporating all of that into another film. That's not to say that I think they'll do a prequel, but if they do, that's what would make sense.


If they do a sequel, though....eh. I really can't say that I'm fond of that idea. It would be really hard to do an effective stand-alone sequel, as it very rarely works to do a trilogy plus one. Which isn't to say that they couldn't pull it off - it'd just be much harder.

Either way, whether they do a single sequel or a whole trilogy, I think the biggest problem is going to be balancing originality and consistency. I don't want Will and Elizabeth to come back - not because I hate them (Will's my favorite character, matched only by Barbossa), but because their story is done. They started out an apprentice blacksmith and the governor's daughter, and they ended up the captain of the Flying Dutchman and the king of all pirates (and married with a kid). They each had a definite character arc with a specific destination, and they reached that by the end of AWE.

Jack, in contrast, came full circle. He started in a dinghy chasing after his ship, and he ended in a dinghy chasing after his ship. That's the beauty of Jack: he's constant. He goes on a journey and has character growth, yes, but in the end he just winds up right where we first saw him. It's for this very reason that, if they are doing a sequel, he would be the ideal catalyst. Jack doesn't have a character arc with a specific end, so he can just keep on going. But that's also where the problem originality vs. consistency comes in. We've already established Jack as this constant character who always comes back around in the end, so to stray very far from that wouldn't be consistent with the existing trilogy. Yet because Jack does more or less follow the same cycle, it's going to be harder to make any new movies about him seem unique. So they have to be different, but not too different.


All that said, I really can't pretend to know how those in charge of PotC function. We thought we had DMC all figured out, and they still managed to surprise us quite a few times. AWE, some of my predictions were a lot closer, but I still didn't anticipate other parts. As long as they keep surprising us like that, I'll be content. And while I still can't honestly say that I'm especially excited about the prospect of another PotC, I'll still see it. They've gotten us this far, so I figure I owe it to them to give them the benefit of the doubt on this one. Maybe, just maybe, I'll be pleasantly surprised.