I haven't seen it yet. I don't think I will till it's on dvd release or on cable tv here. But I think the whole concept of the story is beautiful and tugs away at my heart strings.

Ang Lee is also a very competent director.

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Woah, that's awesome!

Well I saw it, and I completely agree with MontanaBohemian:



When you see it, it just felt like any other couple that loved each other. It was sad, and beautiful.



If you would call all dramatic love stories stupid, then yes it is stupid. The fact that the love is between two people of the same sex does not make it stupid or disgusting, it is the opposite actually.

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I think thst there need s to be more movies that make people more aware of these taboo subject, make public perception change and not keep it locked in the dark.
The more people that the movie reaches, the more likely peopel are going to be able to understand what that sub-culture is about, and not shun it or think its the most disgustign thing ever.

I say more directors need to have the courage to do more of these 'controversial' films that play on peoples opinions. It wouldnt be controversial if people understood it.

A second point, why is society more used to seeing to females kissing than two males? If this had of been a film about 2 female cowboys falling in love, there would be lines apon lines of men qued to see it. But sicne its a story about love between men people are so biased that they try to ban it. Yes The did try to ban its release in certain areas. Thankfull, in most places they failed.

The only 'polular' movie that I have seen that was about gay men was a comedy staring that crocodile dundee guy paul hogan...not exactly the most respectable movie on that sub-culture.


But in the end, some people are more open minded than others. Its all a matter of what you want to accept, and If people dont want to accept the fact that love between two men can be beautiful then thats just an opinion that cuts you off from a large group of our society (I wouldnt call them minority).

Also a bravo to the actors and director to be willing to take part in a film such as this. They have put their careers and their names on the line.

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Well said, Jo!



Mhmmm, it's a double standard.



Yeah, for sure they were really amazing to do that especially considering they were two known, popular actors.

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There are a lot of movies that are rated R in the US that are rated either General/Universal or 7 here. Sexuality is not taboo here, neither is nakedness or anything sexual. Seeing ruthless violence on screen is going to do way more harm to your child than a naked body ever will. Even the Bishop in Stockholm here in Sweden (which is a woman by the way) supports gay rights openly and condemns the church for discriminating fellow citizens.

Anyways, I can't wait to see this film. I might have to wait until it comes out on DVD though, but I WILL see it! I'm actually looking forward to seeing two hot male actors making out

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Exactly, I was thinking that when I was watching it. If people made more films around this subject, it would help tackle some of the issues some people have about them. It's not disgusting, they just have to remember it's love, whether it's between a man and woman, or two women, or two men.



I'm not sure about it, actually. It just seems to be more socially acceptable for two women to be kissing each other rather than men. I partly think [think, only] that some men are afraid to show their feelings sometimes--not just on this issue, in all kinds of things. Some will not admit that they're depressed, or have been abused, because they think that they will be seen as "soft" or "not manly".


It's idiotic that people feel the need to ban the subject, just because they don't understand it. They should have at least given people a chance to understand the issue, to the places that have got it banned.



Pefectly said, I really couldn't have put it better myself. Any love, in my opinion, is beautiful.


It was very brave of them, I agree But in an interview that I read that was with Heath Ledger [who played Ennis in the film], he said it wasn't brave. People who put out fires or save lives are brave, he said. He said that he was only raising an issue that was taboo in some cases; if people were turned around because of the film, alls well and good. If people were even more disgusted, well, that's their problem.


I wish our country was more like Sweden. It sounds like we could learn a lot from them. And a naked body is only human, after all. It's only been made "disgusting" because of the taboo we have put on it. I agree that violence creates more damage, it would do a lot more harm.


And, of course, it all boils down to the fact that two extremely hot guys are in it

I honestly never thought the topic of gay cowboys would be talked about so much!

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It wasn't taboo really until the 19th century and the Victorian era. If you look back at the 18th, 17th and even 15th century it wasn't uncommon for men to get in bed with men and women (and plenty of them) or the other way around. It wasn't something that was wrong or dirty - it was all about enjoying life and living it to the fullest. Women's dresses were way more revealing than some of today's rap stars and they wore them on a daily basis. The values of the Victorian era sent us back to the Stone Age and that's what we're still trying to free ourselves from.

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Through all that has been said, I just wanted to comment on why I do not plan to see Brokeback Mountain.

It interested me to see your comments, for I view this movie in a completely different perspective.
First, as a Christian, I believe that gay marriage is wrong. It's what the Bible tells me.
Someone mentioned that the church discriminates, but we are following God's law of what he says is right, not discriminating. We believe that God says marriage is between a man and a woman, for that is how he designed them.
You say you are open minded, Eru, which is true, but not all people believe in the same way as you do. I am proud that America has given the rating R, because I believe the warning is needed. I am glad that others' beliefs are respected.

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Wow...I'm stunned. Just stunned..I was going to post about the movie. But I'm quite offended...so I'm just gonna leave the thread before I say something I may regret.

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A warning for what? It's just a movie about two people who love eachother, oh yeah that's a real horror movie right there!

I totally agree with Raivynn, I am very offended and stunned (and mind you I never get offended) so I might as well shut up before I say something that will get me banned from here (although I must admit - it'd be worth it though)

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I apologize for offending you, but may I ask why it was so wrong of me to state what I believe?

If I may be frank, you also offended me by saying that the church discriminates.

I deserve to state my opinions and beliefs, and am sorry you do not agree.

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Of course you're allowed to state what you believe, what's weird though - would I really say what I believe in here I'd be kicked out but you wouldn't.

I'm sorry for offending you, but you can't say it's not discrimination because that's exactly what it is. You don't have to agree with them or like what they do, but to hinder people (that's right, fellow human beings) from loving eachother and to openly proclaim so is discrimination - just like hinder women from having the same rights as men or people of a different race to be able to do the same things as the next one, that's all!

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It's the same with religion. I might think it's wrong for people to go to church but I'm not going to forbid them to do it since that would be discrimination against followers of Christianity for example. I don't agree with lots of things, but I can't forbid them or hinder them from doing what they want to do.

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I know I said I wasn't coming back to this thread. But your post deserves a reply.

Your not in the wrong for stating what you believe. But at the same time, I cannot help but feel personally aggrieved by those same sentiments. I know they weren't aimed at me personally, that's not my point.
However as an openly bisexual woman, how do you think it makes me feel to see such comments?

And yes, yes I'm afraid that it is discriminatory. Replace the word gay with something else...I'm sure you'll see where I'm coming from.

What warning is needed? It's a love story. So it's a same sex couple, so what?
We can't help who we fall in love with. Frown upon my sexuality if you wish...it's your right as a human being. As it is mine to be who I am.

If I've offended with this post...then I apologise.

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Exactly. My sister is gay so how do you think that makes me feel reading comments from people on here wishing that people like my sister shouldn't be allowed to marry the person she loves or be able to adopt kids (as I'm guessing most of you would be against that as well) of her own simply because she loves another woman?

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People this topic is about discussing the film Brokeback Mountain. Please no more discussion on whether or not gay people should be allowed to marry, if being gay is wrong and if the church is discriminating or not, it is against the forum rules.



I'm sorry you feel that way, we do try to apply our rules equally and fairly.

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