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PostPosted: October 11th, 2008, 12:21 am 
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Oh God, not another Pirates of the Caribbean, I was barely able to sit through the last one...

It seems like every sequel they make is an attempt to top the last one, how the hell are they gonna top this last movie? With the frickin... ships shooting eachother while circling a whirlpool or whatever.. Oh boy. :annoyed:

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*ahem* Yeah... I suppose that if they had to give that sum to someone, JD would be the person to give it too. :erm: But that still doesn't take away thr ridiculousness of that. :eyeroll: I mean, that's simply too much, in my opinion.

PD, welcome. ;) More then a few, I'm afraid. :erm: No... I don't think that's what deep is, PD. :blink: I think it's more themes that make a movie deep... ideas... something that makes you think. CotBP flows very nicely, but it's not deep. :no: haha, there's nothing wrong with popcorn flicks, you know. Evrything has a place. ;) Ookay, okay... ;) Uhmm... do you now? :P I can see most of them, except for the underlying themes, and an epic hero. :erm: There were also things listed that an epic hero had to be. *tries to remember* I'll get the full list for you later, but I know it was "required" that an epic hero stand for certain morals/values... like, he represents an ideal or something. Does Will, PD? And then, like, he has to visit the underworld or something, which, remarkably, he did. ;) (I'm telling you, it's like they tried to conform those movies to the epic conventions... but missed out on the two big ones, IMHO.) Yeah... sort of happy is an understatment, though, isn't it? :P ... And you should remain happy. ;)

Hmmm... I think Disney might have some surprises up their sleeves. ;) Uhm... I'm not sure about "good", but hey! :P Teh immortal Jack Sparrow is not good. :no: Since when do I trust you. ;) Aye. That we have. :lol: Oh, be nice. *nurses head* You know, an easy rule we can both adopt is, that if I'm stupid enough to post something in small text, you shouldn't read it. :P That way you won't get annoyed, and I won't get bonked. :lol:

I know. ;)

:roll: PD, this is Disney we're talking about. They're not going broke anytime soon. ;) I'm sure they have enough to pay that amount for JD AND whomever else suits them. :P You know... all this shows is that Disney expects to makes TONS out of this. So they can easily afford to give JD 60 million of their wealth. ;) If you're really outraged by that, I suggest boycotting the movie. ;) But, I do agree... it's ridiculous. :eyeroll:


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I guess people will make pretty much any movie that pops into their heads now days as long as they think it's going to make money.... Which is sad and really takes away from a lot of movies that coudl have been good movies. *shrugs*


Now.... IF, they take this new movie and don't even link it to the old movies. (no storylines lingering from previous movies or anything like that unless it's just a side issue that doesn't effect the overall theam)

Then I think they might be able to make a decent movie out of it... but honestly I don;t' see themdoing that.

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Calloniel (PD) wrote:

The main thing is really, is that PotC isn’t mean to just be this fluffy comedy that you watch for the laughs… if it was it would be categorized as a comedy. As it is… it’s not. It is an action/adventure movie with some comedy in it to liven it up.


See, sometimes people like fluffy movies. I enjoy a movie now and again that isn't of epic proportions, that I can just sit back and relax over a mug of hot choclate with. CotBP was that. It was a good story and it ended. It could have easily ended right there. But for some reason they felt a need to make another. And another.

I was watching Blackbeard's Ghost (old live action Disney) a while back. For those of you who haven't seen it, it's a rather predictable comedy. It's enjoyable. The ghost of Blackbeard helps take down the town menace and help the school track team win a match. And here's the beauty of it: Disney didn't make a sequel. They did not feel the need to then explain what happened to the track team the next year or how the bad guy tried to get even. NO. They ENDED it. WHY can't people do that anymore?

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Movies were always made to make money... People don't make movies unless they think they'll make at least some profit.

The majority of the public loved the sequals to PotC and they want more and they can make more money by doing another - those are their reasons.

On another note, it's not like sequals are a new thing. :bye2: We've got Jaws, Jaws 2, Jaws 3, I think the Poltergeist series goes up to something like 6, Arthur and Arthur 2, Ghostbusters, The Fly, come on... sequels are nothing new.

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If we want to go even further back with sequels... Dracula... Son Of Dracula... House of Dracula. Frankenstein... son of Frankenstein....King Kong... Son of Kong.... sequels are nothing new.... however... that doesn't mean sequels should be anything but another way to make money, because technically, every film would find itself with a sequel if that was the case.

I have to agree with you Nurr. I love the POTC films, but as I've said before, I don't think Disney needed to go down the dark path of "let's try and be seen as more than a film just to entertain people who want to enjoy themselves by choking on popcorn... let's add undertones and make it more serious and we might be accepted in the film world [yeah, let's do that!]".

I'm not saying it's a bad thing, BUT I do sort of wonder why they felt it needed to become darker, because on the whole everyone loved COTBP, critics and fans alike, so it must have been doing something right if crtics loved it. But since DMC pretty much had all the typical Jack antics in the beginning with him in the coffin and on the island.... it then kinda went odd after that, because suddenly everything was... doom... and... gloom.

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Granted sequals are nothing new... that's no mystery. BUT when someone intends to make a sequal they usually make an open ended movie which leaves the watchers wondering or wanting more.

POTC 1 was NOT an open ended movie by any means. It ended wonderfully!! That is the main reason (in my opinion) that the sequals didn't turn out so good.

It's hard to take something that is complete and add on to it.

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As long as there's money to be made, they'll still be making sequels. It's smart business. ;) I think it should be said that when they decided to make a sequel to CotBP, they didn't just throw something together that was identical, but tried to make something of it. I think that's why it got darker and more serious.

I also think that, at this point, the Pirates of the Caribbean brand has the durability of James Bond, Batman, Superman, and all rest keep being remade because their story lines can go in so many directions.

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Came across this the other day: http://bigpicture.fancast.com/2008/10/r ... ps_56.html

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Haha, I suspected all along that was a lot of rot. *smug* But really, makes no difference what he makes... we all know we're going to see the movie anyway.

About Gore V. eh, I'm not sure I care if they get him back or not. He's a good director and all... but I think he's botched a bit that could have been <i>better</i> (such as the bit potr pointed out about the scripts.) Honestly I don't think he's the driving force behind the films, and I bet there are other directors out there better suited to the task.

Plus, if we're all hoping for a fresh 'take', an original plot, and new stuff in this fourth movie... wouldn't hiring the same director kind of be like shooting oneself in the leg? Aren't we more likely to get unique and original with a completely new director? Any thoughts?

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Possibly, but then the flip side is that we could end up with something that hardly resembles the previous ones.

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True... but who knows witht he trend they were followign that may be a good thing. lol (just my opinion)

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Vána Anwamanë wrote:
It seems like every sequel they make is an attempt to top the last one, how the hell are they gonna top this last movie? With the frickin... ships shooting eachother while circling a whirlpool or whatever.. Oh boy. :annoyed:



I don't know why, but I absolutely laughed at this. I think it's just the attitude that it's spoken with----PotC wrapped in one single quirk: friggin ships shooting each other while circlin' a whirlpool.


That made my <b>day</b>.

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hahaha.... I gotta agree with you there. I bet you could say that to anyone and theywould think POTC

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PostPosted: October 23rd, 2008, 1:34 am 
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My pirates 4 excitement just fizzled in two seconds. Where's the barf bag?
http://sify.com/movies/fullstory.php?id=14780049
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Woah what the HELL???? :blink:

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