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Author: | Lady Eruwaedhiel [ August 20th, 2006, 6:57 pm ] |
Post subject: | Unresolved plots and loose ends in LOTR |
I was just wondering if anyone knows of any unresolved plotlines and/or loose ends in the Lord of the Rings books. I am writing a fanfic to explain all unsloved LOTR mysteries and any additions would be greatly appreciated as I am suffering from a severe case of writer's block at the moment. Also, you know how Boromir and Faramir had the "seek for the sword that was broken" dream? Did Tolkien ever explain that? I mean to say, did he say who sent the dream or did he leave that up to the reader to decide? I am parted from my books right now *tears well up in my eyes* and cannot look this up for myself. ![]() |
Author: | Ivreniel [ August 21st, 2006, 6:27 pm ] |
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No, he never did explain that. He never explains what really happens to the entwives. |
Author: | Lady Eruwaedhiel [ August 21st, 2006, 8:22 pm ] |
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Oh okay I didn't think so. Hmmmm I kinda forgot about the Entwives . . . I'm not sure if I can add them into the story, since they probably disappeared centuries before my characters go on their little quest thingy. But I can at least explain it in Elvish lore or something . . . Thanks for reminding me. ![]() |
Author: | Ashwise [ August 30th, 2006, 4:58 pm ] |
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That'd make a good fanfic... the finding of the Entwives! |
Author: | Starlight [ August 30th, 2006, 8:57 pm ] |
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One thing I was always curious about. When the peoples of Middle Earth die, where do they go? I always used to think they went to Valinor, that Valinor was like Heaven. But I'm reading the Sil and apparently Valinor was once attached to Middle Earth, so I don't think it could be like Heaven. Besides, people don't go there when they die. Theyy go there to escape the pain of the world. It's possible to die in Valinor. So it couldn't be Heaven. Do they go to the Halls of Mandos? Because that's what I think now. But it says that they are waiting there. What are they waiting for? To go and be with Iluvatar? I don't know. Did Tolkien ever explain this? |
Author: | Velcayelde Elentiriel [ September 1st, 2006, 10:20 pm ] |
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No one knows what happens to humans when they die - I think it's implied that their spirits end up somewhere "outside the circles of the world". When elves die, they go to the Halls of Mandos, which are indeed also called the halls of awaiting. Some of them are waiting to get their bodies back and come back to life (in Valinor), but some aren't allowed to come back or have chosen not to, so they're basically waiting for the world to end. at least that's how I understand it... |
Author: | Starlight [ September 2nd, 2006, 12:08 am ] |
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^ Thank you. That is basically what I thought too, in so many words. I was just never absolutely certain. Apparently no one is exaclt certain though. And I think Tolkien was wise to leave it that way. Death as a mystery. Because that's what death is in real life, a mystery. That's why people fear it, because they fear the unknown. Tolkien knew how to make people relate to what he wrote. Part of that is having that uncertainty about what happens when we pass on. If the characters in LOTR knew exaclty what happened when they died, they wouldn't fear death so much, and we would not be able to realte to them so well. |
Author: | Larael [ September 2nd, 2006, 4:04 pm ] |
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Yes, I've always wondered about the Entwives. Also, where did the Hobbits come from? What happened to Arda after the trilogy ends? There are so many questions that are yet to be answered, that we may actually never know the answer too. ![]() |
Author: | Meldawen [ September 3rd, 2006, 9:49 am ] |
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There's an interesting little loose end in The Hobbit - Tolkien refers to a 'greater town' that was there before Esgaroth, but he never chronicles the history of it. |
Author: | zimoo [ September 12th, 2006, 8:02 am ] |
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Hobbits are a form of men. I think their race is the one in Middle-Earth which we today can relate to most. |
Author: | mephiston, lord of death [ October 8th, 2006, 10:51 am ] |
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Thw entwives became uniterested in trees and forests and like flowers, grass and lesser things. Eventually, they crossed anduin to escape the darkness from the North and Angmar until in the end the war swept over their gardens and they became known as the Brown Lands. Therefore it is safe to assume all the entwives died/ were destroyed in the war. hope this has answered your question lady eruwaedhiel. namarie!!!!!!!!!!! |
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