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Post subject: Lack of Ruhn and Harad Posted: January 22nd, 2006, 2:29 pm |
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I love the LOTR books, but I wish Tolkien should have givenmore details about Ruhn and Harad or any of the dark men. I kind of wonder what their story was, but that's just me. What do you guys think?
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Post subject: Posted: January 22nd, 2006, 7:13 pm |
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I quite agree with you. Tolkien went into great detail the cultures of the main people of Middle-Earth, but he never did go into great detail of those lesser people who are only mentioned, not even in the Sil.
He probably either felt that he didn't need to go intto detail about them because of there lack of importance, or because he didn't care to learn anything else about them, so he didn't write anything else about them. 
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Post subject: Posted: January 23rd, 2006, 12:22 am |
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Joined: 10 September 2005 Posts: 5839 Location: P3X-774, Rohan, Moya, or my TARDIS
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Yes. I want more info on them, along with a map of the whole contintent of middle earth, not just that little corner.
I feel another extensive internet search coming on. I will find out more! Mauahahahahaha!
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Post subject: Posted: January 23rd, 2006, 11:35 am |
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Joined: 02 January 2006 Posts: 5728 Location: Mithlond Country:
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Yeah, I'd love to have more info on them. And a map on the whole of Arda, not necessarily just Middle-earth, because that's just one continent. Who knows - there maybe other "Saurons" on other continents.
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Post subject: Posted: January 23rd, 2006, 8:05 pm |
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Joined: 10 September 2005 Posts: 5839 Location: P3X-774, Rohan, Moya, or my TARDIS
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I remember seeing a book that had the whoe continent as Tolkien drew it, but I cant find the book. And I don't remeber the title. Grrrrrrrrr
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Post subject: Posted: January 23rd, 2006, 10:12 pm |
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Joined: 18 January 2006 Posts: 31
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Also, in the movies, did you notice they mixed up Ruhn and Harad at the Black Gate? The soldiers entering Modor in the books are Haradrim clothed in scarlet and gold. But in the movie, Easterlings enter Mordor clothed in scarlet and gold. I know they considered these soldiers as Easterlings via video games, google, and various LOTR products. Easterlings in the books are a barbaric force, like the Dunlanders.
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Post subject: Posted: January 25th, 2006, 8:18 am |
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Joined: 02 January 2006 Posts: 5728 Location: Mithlond Country:
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Yeah, that's bugged me so much - they're not supposed to be Easterlings. They're southrons.
I saw a map online of the Dark Continents, Nauriel, but now I don't remember where.
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Post subject: Posted: January 29th, 2006, 1:14 pm |
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Joined: 07 June 2005 Posts: 5272 Location: Texas
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Try the Atlas of Middle Earth, it has maps of the whole world, including the far east, in several time periods
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Post subject: Posted: June 28th, 2008, 1:17 am |
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Joined: 02 January 2007 Posts: 3682 Location: The Lakeshore of Annúminas Country:
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Karen Wynn Fonstad's Atlas of Middle Earth is an invaluable tool in getting a grasp of Middle Earth. I highly recommend it.
It was my understanding that it was the Southrons who entered Mordor by the Black Gates after marching up through Ithilien. It was a company of Southrons that was ambushed by the Rangers of Ithilien led by Faramir which Gollum, Sam & Frodo observed. Easterlings would have likely entered Mordor from the northeast, as the armies of Khand would have entered Mordor from the southeast.
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Post subject: Posted: July 18th, 2008, 4:16 am |
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^^ i simply LOVE that book. must get a copy.
many, many invaluable maps of every possible little thing you could ever wonder about...
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Post subject: Posted: August 4th, 2008, 6:09 am |
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Joined: 24 June 2005 Posts: 3759 Location: Berlin Country:
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yeah the Atlas of Middle Earth really is such a wonderful book.
But I couldn't agree more with what has been said. I wish Tolkien had written more about the lands in the south and east of Middle Earth. I mean, the west probably was the most important part since the elves were there and Sauron lived in Mordor which is not that far east either, but still I think it would be really interesting to know more about how these people live and why they supported Sauron and so on
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Post subject: Posted: August 5th, 2008, 9:28 pm |
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Joined: 02 January 2007 Posts: 3682 Location: The Lakeshore of Annúminas Country:
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Fíriel_18190 wrote: ^ yeah the Atlas of Middle Earth really is such a wonderful book. But I couldn't agree more with what has been said. I wish Tolkien had written more about the lands in the south and east of Middle Earth. I mean, the west probably was the most important part since the elves were there and Sauron lived in Mordor which is not that far east either, but still I think it would be really interesting to know more about how these people live and why they supported Sauron and so on
Yeah. Its too bad Tolkien had a day-job as a professor. Just think what he could have completed had he been able to devote all his time to writing Middle Earth! But he had a family to feed and bills to pay, and the books wouldn't have provided much, if any meaningful income at the time.
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Post subject: Posted: August 7th, 2008, 4:01 am |
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Joined: 24 June 2005 Posts: 3759 Location: Berlin Country:
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^
yeah you're right of course.
And I mean, we don't just have a lack of Rhun and Harad stories, but also the history of the West of Middle-Earth and Valinor has huge gaps, it's just that we know hardly anything of the lands in the east/south
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