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PostPosted: December 8th, 2005, 1:00 pm 
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Ok, I'd like to see which characters everyone thinks is the bravest in LotR.
There are no wrong answers to this question, just say who you think is the bravest and why they exhibit bravery. If you think more than one is brave, that's ok, but don't just say everyone, narrow it down to a few!

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Samwise the Brave...

Every single one in the fellowship is brave. They were brave enogh to go to Mordor. (That's where they all were supposed to go at first place.)

But the bravest... *thinks*

Maybe Sam... Frodo wouldn't have gotten far without Sam. He kept on going.

But maybe that doesn't show how brave someone is. Maybe he kept on going 'cause there was no way to turn back.

Bah...I'm going in circles...

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PostPosted: December 9th, 2005, 12:00 am 
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Sam
It took a lot of loyalty and bravery to follow Frodo, who was slowly deteriorating and turning against Sam because of the Ring, and going into Mordor, which could have been certain death for the both of them. Sam had the bravery to fight Shelob, and to take on a bunch of Orcs by himself. I think Sam was the bravest character in all of the books.

Frodo
I'm sure it took a lot of bravery to take the Ring to Mordor. Frodo was plagued by the Nazgûl, Smeagol/Gollum, and Oecs/Uruk-hai. He knew from the begining that it would not be an easy journey, but he took it upon himself, and I'm positive it took some amount of bravery.

I'll be back with more. :)


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Watch out ... this is maybe gonna be a long, long, longish essay! ; )

The 5 Hobbits
Have you ever imagined how it is to be dragged away from your home, and you only know that you're in danger (probably it's a great danger), you know/are someone that has a misterious object of desire of a yet unknown enemy. Then you got chased by dark riders who are scary, deppressing, fast and etc. And if that is not enough for you; they find where you've moved to and then try to get ya outta there.
Comfy, eh?

Éowyn
Ok, so you are a princess who lives with an unnormal unc' who became crazy because his family is dying and some wizard is trying to steal his mind; and you only have one person who understands you - your borther who thinks women shouldn't fight very much. Besides, a slimy, ugly and Martian-like guy follows you wherever you go; he keeps drooling over your perfectness and you have pretty good reasons to be scared of marrying him.
Wait. Better days are coming. You meet a way cool, cute man who seems to be friendly with every living person and he saves you of your stalker. But then, he tells yu he has a woman. Yeah, baby. I bet I'm cooler than se is, you think but alas that you've been wrong. He leaves you with the kiddies and people who are scared to death. That rox, ha?
You decide to dress yourself into a man just to follow your love and you take a Hobbit with you to prevent yourself from going sad. Then you realize your uncle is gonna die beacuse some mentally wronged typo on a black not-horsey horse wants to kill him. Now that's scary. But you kill him!!!
>>>>>And I think that Eowyn was very brave to kill the W-K. : )

Boromir
Your father is mad. That can't be denied. And your brother is very scared of him. Besides, you have a dream that looks like a nightmare - a very question- and doubtful. You realize you have no clue what this means so you go on a trip that might prove very dangerous. You only take your horsey and some fighting thigies, then you kiss you crazy father and adorable brother in goodbye and leave.
When you come to a town, full of scarying Elves, you realize you've find a future King of your homeland. You're both happy and sad; but you're assigned to go with 8 other guys to a land that you've feared all your life. Boy, that's great. You lost a wizard, the Ring calls you all the time, the Ringbearer is afraid of you. And you have a chat with an interesting, but already married lady that tells you that your city is gonna fall.
You leave Lórien with doubtful thoughts and the RIngy, sensing your weakness, enlarges its call to you. You are tempted and try to take the ring. The enemies find you distressed and sad but you must forget about yourself; you have two hobbits and the whole Fellowship to save. Get to the work.
But you get pierced by too many arrows. Sad thing, but you can't prevent yourself from dying - and neither can anyone else. Yet you die forgiven and you know that the King will never let Minas Tirith fall.


Whoa, that's the longest post I've ever written. :blink: Sorry for any typos, but I havta go now so I don't have much time to edit anything. : )

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I think that every one has a differant view of bravery. Its such a wide term that its hard to look at one person and say they are braver then the next. But I am going to have to say that over all.... Merry and Pippin

They went through all this crappy stuff, but yet they still had a sence of humor. And they wernt afraid at all of going out and fighting again.

But again there are so many differant meanings of bravery

Ok so I looked up bravery in the dictionary just now and this is what I got.

a quality of spirit that enables you to face danger of pain without showing fear
So lets keep this in mind as we post

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PostPosted: December 10th, 2005, 11:44 am 
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Legolas of course!

Why, you ask?

Well, he could of tangled his hair so easily! And he did! But he kept on going! And that's very brave coming from a drama queen like Legolas :)

(By the way...... I was not being serious)

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PostPosted: December 10th, 2005, 12:19 pm 
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Lady Silme wrote:
But again there are so many differant meanings of bravery

Ok so I looked up bravery in the dictionary just now and this is what I got.

a quality of spirit that enables you to face danger of pain without showing fear
So lets keep this in mind as we post


Yes, bravery is exhibited in many different circumstances. It doesn't have to just be fighting or physical--bravery can be emotional and internal as well.
I believe Theoden was at least one of the many brave characters in the book. He was able to lead his men in the face of a powerful enemy, even when all seemed lost. He also was willing to fight with Aragorn at Pelennor when he believed all hope was gone. He was brave in the face of death--he did not fear to die--well, maybe he did just as all people in a way do fear death--but he was confident about where he was going. He was not going to be ashamed in the halls of his forefathers. He was satisfied with where his life had taken him.
I like Theoden...


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[cont'd]

Boromir
Boromir was probably one of the most overlooked members of the Fellowship because he dies in the first film/second book. It is only right that he gets properly credited. He was very brave to have defended Pippin and Merry risking his own life.

Eowyn
She went against her uncle's request and fought for what she believed in. She even put her life on the line to try and save her dying uncle. In the end it probably took a lot of bravery to give up a life of fighting and start a new life with Faramir and a life of healing.

Arwen
She gave up her immortality against her fathers wishes. She was not entirerly sure if Aragorn would come back for her, but she went through with it anyway. She left all of her people and family behind for one person she loved.

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Aragorn
I'm surprised that no one said Aragorn before me. Since he was a child, he knew that a day would come when he would have to show his people (Men) that he was capable of leading them. He must've been very scared. That's a lot of pressure to put on someone's shoulders. Aside from that, he's fought in a lot of battles, all for the good of Middle-earth. He was able to look the King of the Dead in the eye and tell him that he was the heir or Isildur. Also, Aragorn's risked his life for others countless times.

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PostPosted: December 14th, 2005, 8:14 pm 
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I think that one of the most over looked ppl in the trilogy is our beloved Faramir. He is so brave! I feal so bad for him!


His daddy doesnt love him, his mother and brother died. And didnt faramir's Mother die in child birth... with him!?! If so, that must be so hard! to think that your mother died giving birth to you! Oh that must be horible! And his dad doesnt love him(or doesnt show it) He pretty much gives up his life for his fathers wishes. You can call it suicide, but whats the differance between his and Arwen's situations? She gave up her life(in an eternal sence) to be with Aragorn. She thinks you know, what is the point in living if I am not LOVED. Faramir gives up his life for his fatehr. he figures,you know, I willl either win and my dad will love me, or die. If I die, you know who cares. There really is no differance. But he holds out through out the ROTK and TTT not having any one tolove him! Thats so hard! fealing as tho no one loves you. Most people have felt like that at least once in their life! Can you imagine fealing like that all the time? I cant!

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Galasriniel wrote:
Legolas of course!

Why, you ask?

Well, he could of tangled his hair so easily! And he did! But he kept on going! And that's very brave coming from a drama queen like Legolas :)

(By the way...... I was not being serious)

Don't do that! I could easily break my neck when i fall out of my chair with laughter!

Well, I would have to say.......um......I'll get back to you on that.....I need to think.


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PostPosted: December 21st, 2005, 11:16 pm 
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i think that everone was brave!!! except for wormtongue and all those evil guys :medieval:


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I think it would be interesting if we could come up with why each character is brave. It's easy to just say, 'they're all brave', yes it's true, but what makes the character brave? What makes them a hero? Sorry, it's just the English teacher coming out in me...


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Hm...this is a tough question. :blink: I think I will name my favorites, then.

Aragorn---okay he is a courageous warrior, but his decisons also make him brave. He's brave enough to face the black gates when he knows that they have no chance, but to buy Frodo time. He's brave enough to face his own destingy---becoming king.

Sam is a definite hero. Frodo seriously would not have gone far without him. Sam fought Shelob for Frodo, risking his life.

Eowyn is brave because she fought in the war and went against her uncle's orders.

Boromir & Faramir. I do agree that some ppl take Boromir lightly. He was brave, because he defended Merry & Pippen. He's also trying to help Gondor, but the ring is still pulling him towards it. Faramir is brave because he fought for Gondor also and did his best to prove to his father. These two brothers had each other's back until they left each other.

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Okay, I have some reasons why peole are brave

Theoden: I takes a lot of curage to be a leader. He makes desisions that effect the lives of many many people. the difference in hs dicisions could get people killed. It takes a lot of guts to be a strong leader that fights by his people.

Arwen: She gave up her people and immortality to be with some one she loves. If that isn't brave, then I don't know what is.

Ohhhh, I had others, but I forgot....


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What about Frodo?
He definately shows heroism many times in the book. He stands up to the Nazgul (even though it's partially out of his control), and I think somewhat in his dealing with Gollum. He first believes Gollum should be slain (in his discussion with Gandalf), but shows the discernment to not kill him. Frodo sees how Gollum can help without rashly killing him. There were many times that Frodo could have turned back--and just not care about the doom of Middle-earth, but he had strength and help from Sam to get through it.

yay for Frodo!


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