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Post subject:  Posted: December 18th, 2006, 3:10 pm |
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Right. Immortality was for the elves, sadly.
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Post subject: Posted: January 2nd, 2007, 10:52 am |
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Aragorn in Valinor...?
..wouldn´t that defeat the whole purpose of The Lord of the Rings?
..Aragorn´s internal struggle, as the heir of Gondor?
..it wouldn´t quite fit Tolkien´s storyline
..different story all together, part of Fanfic
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Post subject: Posted: January 7th, 2007, 1:47 pm |
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but I don't think Sam would have wanted to go. At least not without his family, and I don't think he would have had a reason to go, since he was lucky in the end, wasn't he?
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Post subject: Posted: January 9th, 2007, 2:45 pm |
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I don't think that Frodo should have gone into the West without creating a bloodline of Bagginses. They won't live on...well they will in the Tooks but still...It's a shame it had to be that way but i guess it just did...
Frodo was a hero along with the Gamgees and i think his part in the tale ended all too quickly.
By the way if Immortaility was fo rthe elves only, how come hobbits are able to sail into the west, and wizards, and of course dwarves....  _________________ <center><font size="0">'Before you came along we bagginses were <i>very</i> well thought of...never had any adventures or did anything unexpected!''</font></br><a href="http://www.frodoforever.com/"><img src="http://www.hufflepuffpride.com/frodo/claim2.gif" border="0" width="200" height="120"></a>
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Post subject: Posted: January 9th, 2007, 3:13 pm |
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I also don't like the end, but I guess we can't change it 
but I can understand why Frodo wanted to go away, so I guess it was the best solution for him... _________________ .::. PUSH : Pray until something happens : PUSH .::.
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Post subject: Posted: February 20th, 2007, 8:52 pm |
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I`m sure it was a difficult choice for Frodo to leave, but it is understandable why he left.
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Post subject: Posted: February 20th, 2007, 10:58 pm |
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ElenyaAr-Feiniel wrote: I also don't like the end, but I guess we can't change it but I can understand why Frodo wanted to go away, so I guess it was the best solution for him...  Change it!
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Post subject: Posted: February 25th, 2007, 6:10 pm |
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Has anyone ever made a fan-fic about this idea? I would like it...
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Post subject: Posted: May 12th, 2007, 10:33 am |
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Feanaro Calalean wrote: Has anyone ever made a fan-fic about this idea? I would like it...
In the process of making one. _________________ Faith isn't the ability to believe long and far into the misty future.
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Post subject: Posted: May 14th, 2007, 12:19 am |
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Aerlinn wrote: And Frodo died. He just lived the rest of his life in Valinor, he was granted passage for being the Ringbearer. Sam the same story, since he bore it for a short time. They didn't get immortality. Valinor's maybe called "The Undying Lands" but that's because the people (elves, Ainur, Maiar) that live there don't die. Not because the lands itself hold some kind of magical power, the Elves didn't die in M-E either... And the wizards...of course they could pass. They were materialised Maiar after all...they are immortal, and BELONG in Valinor...  Is time slower in Valinor? Or will Frodo, Gimli, Sam, etc all die at a natural rate?
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Post subject: Posted: May 16th, 2007, 5:51 pm |
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It sounds like time is slower there.
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Post subject: Posted: May 20th, 2007, 2:43 pm |
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green_leaf wrote: This is a relly long thread.
Even though mortal people move to Valinor, they'll reamin mortal. Tolkien was explicit on that matter. so it does not make much difference! right?
GL
wright. and besides, who would rule over gondor? i know aragorn would find someone descent but still  although the idea is really good.. 
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Post subject: Posted: August 26th, 2007, 5:47 pm |
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dwarf wrote: Is time slower in Valinor? Or will Frodo, Gimli, Sam, etc all die at a natural rate?
I would think that time does not exist in a place like Valinor. Pain, death, and grieving whilst all part of a mortal life do not exist in such a pure place.
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Post subject: Posted: September 4th, 2007, 4:50 pm |
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evenstarelfe wrote: [GL wright. and besides, who would rule over gondor? i know aragorn would find someone descent but still although the idea is really good.. [/quote]
Faramir could do it. He is the Steward. _________________ Faith isn't the ability to believe long and far into the misty future.
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Post subject: Posted: September 13th, 2007, 1:23 pm |
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Aerlinniel ó Eressëa wrote: Frodos-Guide wrote: Frodo was a hero along with the Gamgees and i think his part in the tale ended all too quickly. By the way if Immortaility was fo rthe elves only, how come hobbits are able to sail into the west, and wizards, and of course dwarves.... Uh...Sam did go to the Grey havens...he sailed with Cirdan, when Rosie had died. So he did get there....Just sayin' And Frodo died. He just lived the rest of his life in Valinor, he was granted passage for being the Ringbearer. Sam the same story, since he bore it for a short time. They didn't get immortality. Valinor's maybe called "The Undying Lands" but that's because the people (elves, Ainur, Maiar) that live there don't die. Not because the lands itself hold some kind of magical power, the Elves didn't die in M-E either... And the wizards...of course they could pass. They were materialised Maiar after all...they are immortal, and BELONG in Valinor... This is all confusing. In essence, Hobbits are Immortal there. They are allowed to live out there forever, like Heaven really, they aren't dead are they?
I also think that Frodo going off with no wife means I wouldn't have to see wor Elijah Kissing some girl lol - in his hobbit stuff which to me is the most attractive side to Elijah, the long curly hair  yum!
Hee, but It's sad in a way. I suppose his character is always preserved in our hearts and in History lol. Who needs kids? It would have probably taken a lot of aspects out of him anyway, having a wife and kids. _________________ <center><font size="0">'Before you came along we bagginses were <i>very</i> well thought of...never had any adventures or did anything unexpected!''</font></br><a href="http://www.frodoforever.com/"><img src="http://www.hufflepuffpride.com/frodo/claim2.gif" border="0" width="200" height="120"></a>
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Post subject: Posted: September 19th, 2007, 4:18 pm |
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I don't think the Hobbits were immortal. They died like everyone else.
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