Author |
Message |
|
Post subject: Your opinion Posted: July 8th, 2005, 1:12 am |
|
Joined: 05 June 2005 Posts: 77 Location: Australia
|
Does anyone think smeagol/gollum deserved to fall down into the lava at the end? i personally don't think he deserved it, it just isn't fair...
|
|
Top |
|
|
|
Post subject: Posted: July 8th, 2005, 6:22 am |
|
Joined: 26 June 2005 Posts: 66
|
I don't think anyone deserves to die.
|
|
Top |
|
|
|
Post subject: Posted: July 8th, 2005, 12:03 pm |
|
|
I don't think he deserved it, because it was Gullum who corrupted Smeagol and throwing them both into the lava was just not fair for Smeagol, at one time in the movie, Smeagol was actually good. But I guess that when both Gullum and Smeagol were tricked by Frodo in Ithilien, I guess that Smeagol did not trust Frodo anymore. But if only there was a way to split Gullum and Smeagol from each other, there was a chance that the good old Smeagol would come back.
I think that every person has a good side and a bad side and in Gullum/Smeagol's case the dark side was poisoning the good side, is like when a child is corrupted by an adult making the child think like the adult; and there for the child would follow the adult's ways, for good or for bad.
But in the other hand, no one desrves to die,
It's kinda complicated but I hope that u could understand my point my Elf friends!
|
|
Top |
|
|
|
Post subject: Posted: July 8th, 2005, 4:01 pm |
|
Joined: 03 June 2005 Posts: 5602 Location: Canada Country:
|
No I don't think he deserved to die. He was corrupted by the ring; it's not his fault. Saying that Gollum deserved to day is like saying that Boromir deserved to die. And I don't think that Boromir deserved to die at all.
_________________ Proud Member of the The Evilishy Nazgûl Alliance for World Domination {Beri}
|
|
Top |
|
|
|
Post subject: Posted: July 8th, 2005, 8:01 pm |
|
Joined: 05 June 2005 Posts: 77 Location: Australia
|
that's good, for a minute there i thought that i was the only one who thought he didn't deserve to die
|
|
Top |
|
|
|
Post subject: Posted: July 8th, 2005, 11:51 pm |
|
Joined: 26 June 2005 Posts: 66
|
So why does Arwen deserve to die, Beriadanwen? Your hypocrisy astounds me.
|
|
Top |
|
|
|
Post subject: Posted: July 9th, 2005, 8:14 am |
|
Joined: 05 June 2005 Posts: 77 Location: Australia
|
he mentioned something about Arwen?? am i blind or something
|
|
Top |
|
|
|
Post subject: Posted: July 9th, 2005, 1:11 pm |
|
Joined: 03 June 2005 Posts: 5602 Location: Canada Country:
|
fbc wrote: So why does Arwen deserve to die, Beriadanwen? Your hypocrisy astounds me. Oh my gosh I don't think that Arwen deserves to die! I laughed at what Elu Thingol said because it was funny how he said it. I would have laughed if he had said it about anyone! Jamson wrote: he mentioned something about Arwen?? am i blind or something
No you're not blind, it's from another thread
_________________ Proud Member of the The Evilishy Nazgûl Alliance for World Domination {Beri}
|
|
Top |
|
|
|
Post subject: Posted: July 10th, 2005, 1:37 pm |
|
Joined: 26 June 2005 Posts: 269 Location: Henneth Annun
|
I really hoped that Smeagol would be freed of Gollum and redeemed at the end of the story - I was gutted when he fell into the lava.
When he first shakes off Gollum in the film I was thinking - 'Nice one Smeagol' so I hoped that he would do it again - I should be so lucky!
Mind you - the look of ecstacy on his face when he gets the ring at the end made me think - at least he died happy.
_________________
Be alert - the world needs more lerts
|
|
Top |
|
|
|
Post subject: Posted: July 10th, 2005, 1:58 pm |
|
Joined: 03 June 2005 Posts: 8105 Location: The United States of America
|
i think that Smeagol deserved life. as said before, he's just a being corrupted by the Ring. but when it comes to Gollum...yes. he was evil.
_________________
^Thanks Gily!
<By Bubble Black
|
|
Top |
|
|
|
Post subject: Posted: July 10th, 2005, 2:21 pm |
|
Joined: 03 July 2005 Posts: 9846 Location: city that never sleeps
|
there was no redeeming Smeagol even if he was freed of the ring. he could never return to his hobbit-form. even if he did some good deeds, the world would still look on him in pity and prejudice. for him, death would have released him from all that.
_________________
|
|
Top |
|
|
|
Post subject: Posted: July 10th, 2005, 8:41 pm |
|
Joined: 05 June 2005 Posts: 77 Location: Australia
|
yes, he did look so happy, and it was funny when he was jumping up and down saying, "precious precious"
|
|
Top |
|
|
|
Post subject: Posted: July 11th, 2005, 12:15 pm |
|
Joined: 06 May 2005 Posts: 15181 Location: Minas Morgul
|
I personally thought Gollum/Smeagol deserved to die. Yes, yes. I know you all are glaring daggers and all but you say that Smeagol was once good and he didn't deserve to die but Gollum did. Regardless of what you all say, Gollum and Smeagol are one and the same. ....He...may have a severe case of bipolarism but...anyway - but I don't think by only getting rid of the Ring and not killing Gollum would've changed anything. He would still be fighting with himself, still be wanting the ring and he may go into denial that the Ring no longer exists. He would keep crawling around Middle Earth disturbingly talking to himself about something precious that no longer is precious.
If everyone that was corrupted by the ring and the power that it resembles, could go back to their innocent state of mind, there wouldn't BE a conflict in the first place.
_________________ <center>
THE HALLOWFEST 2010 <a href="http://www.arwen-undomiel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=20958">information here</a>
</center>
|
|
Top |
|
|
|
Post subject: Posted: July 12th, 2005, 5:53 am |
|
Joined: 09 July 2005 Posts: 9460 Location: in the temple of love
|
Smeag shouldn't die.... Yeah, mybe gollum but Smeagol should remain... he was so cool....
_________________ <center>[font=Times New Roman]<img src="http://tinyurl.com/63ongu"><br><br>From sorrow & pain I find my strength ... the more pain I feel, the more I see /// July the 4th 2008, first day of my life...<br><br>I met Eru on September 5th 2006 ♥ (and April 15th 2008!)<br><br>Censorship Causes Blindness</center>[/font]
|
|
Top |
|
|
|
Post subject: Posted: July 12th, 2005, 10:40 am |
|
Joined: 03 July 2005 Posts: 9846 Location: city that never sleeps
|
the Afterlife would have been kinder on Smeagol than the life he was living then
_________________
|
|
Top |
|
|
|
Post subject: Posted: July 12th, 2005, 1:28 pm |
|
Joined: 26 June 2005 Posts: 269 Location: Henneth Annun
|
Kitoky wrote: I personally thought Gollum/Smeagol deserved to die. Yes, yes. I know you all are glaring daggers and all but you say that Smeagol was once good and he didn't deserve to die but Gollum did. Regardless of what you all say, Gollum and Smeagol are one and the same. ....He...may have a severe case of bipolarism but...anyway - but I don't think by only getting rid of the Ring and not killing Gollum would've changed anything. He would still be fighting with himself, still be wanting the ring and he may go into denial that the Ring no longer exists. He would keep crawling around Middle Earth disturbingly talking to himself about something precious that no longer is precious.
If everyone that was corrupted by the ring and the power that it resembles, could go back to their innocent state of mind, there wouldn't BE a conflict in the first place.
You are absolutely right of course - I suppose that I'm just a sentimental old so and so who is a sucker for the underdog.
_________________
Be alert - the world needs more lerts
|
|
Top |
|
|
Who is online |
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests |
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot post attachments in this forum
|
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group
Boyz theme by Zarron Media 2003
|
|