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Post subject:  Posted: September 28th, 2008, 11:41 pm |
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Well, you're entitled to it. (For my part, I don't think they ever should have made the new Star Wars films and that they ruined the original three for me.)
Yes, JD does have quite a busy shedule. I can think of several films off the top of my head that are coming out/in production, so maybe that was the earliest it could be done. Ah well... more time too work up the excitement. 
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Post subject: Posted: September 29th, 2008, 9:28 am |
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Auch. I DO want Johnny in the next Batman, but that's beside the point 
Well, at 2012 huh? Hmm, I wouldn't care less. I'll watch it at DVD/Blu-Ray, and that's it. To tell the truth, I didn't like AWE at all. Too much CGI and plot twists instead of telling an actual story. Simple, but effective.
Again it's my opinion. Don't go berserk on me. I'm not saying you should hate AWE.
But I'm dissapointed that Disney, promised,PROMISED, no more sequels, and then bam! Pixar, High School and Pirates. For now on, for me, Disney is only 2D and 3D animated features (included Pixar). Enough's enough with live-action 
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Post subject: Posted: September 29th, 2008, 7:06 pm |
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^ So do I.  *pouts* And the fact that he's doing PIRATES out of all things just adds to my frustration.  But... yeah... 
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Post subject: Posted: September 29th, 2008, 7:43 pm |
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I guess I should have more faith in Jerry Bruckheimer but I have a feeling that this is just beating a dead horse.
We'll see. I'll reserve judgment until the trailers come out and there's an official cast list and plot summary, etc... it's too early to tell at this point.
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Post subject: Posted: September 29th, 2008, 10:42 pm |
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^that's probably smart, Kit. Right now all we have is speculation and hope...  It'll be nice to really get to talk about it and plan on it when we've got some solid facts to go on.
Aramel Elyanwe wrote: Yeah, I really don't think T&T will let us down, but I suppose to the fans, it seems like there isn't anything that can top AWE. I mean, they went to World's End, saved Jack from death (like always), defeated Beckett [:'-( ] and Will and Elizabeth got married. That seems like enough to close off the story, although the ending of AWE honestly didn't satisfy me. CotBP would have been fine on it's own, but then again, we wouldn't have had teh Cutler [who, in my opinion, made DMC absolutely brilliant]. So I'm hoping we'll get a variety of new characters [and no more Mary-Sue Elizabeth women  ]. I really really hope they don't screw up what the movies are all about... I mean, the first movie, cursed skeletons... well, that was sorta believable, but when we came to Davy Jones and his crew - that was a bit unbelievable. And I'm still so ticked off that the Black Pearl somehow managed to defeat the Endeavour; the grand FLAGSHIP OF THE EAST INDIA TRADING COMPANY, with their tiny little cannons, when in one blast, both the BP and FD could have been sunk. Curse the so-called "heroes" prevailing in the end. 
My goodness, 2012 is such a long time to wait... I'll be 19 when we go to see it, and hopefully I won't have grown tired of waiting. Perhaps they'll bump down the premiere date... and I agree with the fact that Johnny is probably just immensely busy working on another TB film.
I guess we'll just have to wait and see, although I'm pretty excited and I'd love if there would be more news on it soon...
No, not T&T, Jerry and Gore! They have done such a lovely job with the other movies.  Yeah, I know, I mean, in a way I guess it wasn’t quite closed, but it was also… sorta… nice that way. Like I said before, it gave fans a chance to think out the rest of the story. It did pretty much satisfy me because I got to sorta end it how I wanted to. Nooosss! I couldn’t imagine CotBP on it’s own… that would be so sad! There would be so much of the story and character development left out. yeah, although I sorta don’t want new charries… *clings to the old ones* I dunno, I guess for me that’s what PotC is. It makes the unbelievable… believable. It lets your imagination run with the possibilities of a world you would like to believe exists. A world full of fantasty and whatnot. Lol, there’s that old complaint again. Although I have to agree… and that little bit you said at the end, the “Curse the so-called "heroes" prevailing in the end.” part made me laugh.
Yeah, I’ll be 20!  scary thought! But they very well could bump down the premeir date. Yeah, more PotC 4 news, please! And good news at that! 
TT, yeah, just go rubbing it in, why don’t you? yeah, I’ve read that about JD too… he’s just too wanted and there’s not enough of him to go around. Lol yeah, that is true (although personally I sorta liked Indy 4) but we shall have to see. (also the longer they put it off the more they might be able to get Keira back… none of the movies she has been doing lately have been overly huge hits so who knows…)
Haha, and I pride myself in that fact. Well, I don’t want you to feel constricted… just look at it like this, I’m looking out for your welfare here. without me who knows where you would be, right? Umm, I guess that’s a way to take it.  hmmm, how long do I have to answer that question? not ruin it! They’re enriching your life by letting you now witness it! Look at it that way and it’ll make you feel better, TT! It’s a new life experience.
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Post subject: Posted: September 29th, 2008, 11:42 pm |
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Indy 4 was good.
Man, I wish there was some more news!!!
I don't think they could have ended AWE any other way (at least on Jack's part). He has to be the same and go on... another adventure on the horizon. Loved that, and like someone mentioned earlier... we first met him in a dingy and they ended it with him in one.
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Post subject: Posted: September 30th, 2008, 1:04 pm |
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Dark, Queen of Angmar wrote: I'll be ANCIENT if it comes out in 2012! Good grief... I'll be 20(19 if it comes out before September 1st)! OH MY GOSH. I'll look like such a tool walking into the theatre at age 20, with no little kids around... sheesh. Oh well, it'll be fun!
I'll be 28 if it comes out in 2012, haha. Why would you look like a tool walking into a Pirates movie at age 20? Heck, I was 19 when the first Pirates movie came out. Didn't stop me from seeing it three times in theater  _________________ 
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Post subject: Posted: September 30th, 2008, 1:06 pm |
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Well in my honest opinion, Indiana Jones 4 should never have been made. They deviated too much from what Indiana Jones is all about, adventure and fun with a supernatural twist. Adding sci-fi elements to a series that essentially deal with the supernatural, was not a good idea and there was definitely something missing.
Which is why I do worry about whether they will deviate from what POTC has been about. Supernatural good fun, not sci-fi.
And I do sort of agree with you FaeEowynTonks. I personally liked AWE, in fact I like them all. But it seems to me after the success of COTBP, they got a little bit lost in the seriousness, and really by AWE, things were so dark and bleak, thank God for Jack and Barbossa and their being the same as always. It was almost as if the film makers were trying to prove that there was more to POTC than it just being entertaining good fun, which to me, was the whole point and charm of COTBP. It was simply, good fun. It worked quite well, admittedly. It was gradual disaster and bad things, rather than it suddenly just being all doom and gloom, but I did miss the elements that made COTBP as entertaining.
But, I'm hopeful that this next film will be just as enjoyable. Even if it's dire bildge, Jack and hopefully Barbossa will be there to spare me from the worst.
Lol, and I'll be 25 when it comes out, and my brother will be 31. We don't care if we're the only adults there - although I've always seen more adults watching POTC than children.
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Post subject: Posted: September 30th, 2008, 11:04 pm |
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This is just my opinion, but I believe that the less deep beginnings of CotBP flowed perfectly into DMC and AWE. Barbossa and the curse was just a taste of a much, much bigger world. Imagine if they had bombarded us with Davy Jones and all in the first movie... it would have ruined it! And in the same way, continuing with the lighthearted mood would have been detrimental to the other two. PotC is a series of stories (though DMC and AWE were really just two stories slightly split). The second two movies in the Pirate trilogy were very deep, very much more mature than the first - but that was because we already knew the characters, and to continue with on-the-surface themes (such as Will and Elizabeth coming to grips with their love) would have made for one very dull film.
And as for the <i>need</i> for two more... no, of course DMC and AWE weren't at all necessary. But I know many - including myself - revel in being caught up in the pirate hype, and it's a very enjoyable thing to look forward to.
But back on subject. I'll be 22, and probably just as pirate obsessed as ever, so no worries there. 
I rather like the idea of a prequel, if tastefully done. Jack's history with the EITC is pretty unexplored territory... but actually, not something I would want the movie to be about. I like the mystique that stands behind Jack's dealings with Beckett... it's a them that's been around since before Beckett was even a character, and Norrington discovered the brand on Jack's hand. (Norrington! Going to miss that guy in this one.  )I have a feeling if they take away the veil now, a lot of people are going to be disappointed.
Personally, I'd like to see some more stuff with Jack's history with Barbossa, Bootstrap, and the other pirate lords. However, that would be a very tricky subject to deal with, and very apt to be dull or redundant. So I don't expect anything to come of it.
And as a last, random note, Hans Zimmer better be employed, or there is going to be one verrrry angry FM. _________________ <center>
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Post subject: Posted: October 1st, 2008, 12:21 am |
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I'll be 22 as well. Well said, Fencing Maiden. Come on now, were not several saying earlier that they wanted to see the characters in different situations so that they had more depth? Certainly DMC and AWE did that for me.
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Post subject: Posted: October 1st, 2008, 2:27 pm |
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Yay two people agree with me 
Did Johnny said he was in for more Pirates?
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Post subject: Posted: October 1st, 2008, 2:32 pm |
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I actually would prefer a prequel about Jack's dealings with the East India Trading Company simply because it's hinted to but not at all explored. I much prefer this storyline versus Jack going off to the fountain of youth, which will no doubt bring nothing more than more half-naked restless natives. Though feel free to straggle along Barbosa for good measure.
There are various ways they can incorporate a Jack vs. EITC without losing that "mystique" as was mentioned. Beckett is an overall shady character, so there's so many ways you can do bad vs. worse without losing that edge.
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Post subject: Posted: October 1st, 2008, 5:24 pm |
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Not necessarily, but here's a thought: What if, for some reason, to achieve his quest for the fountain of youth he looks back on his past and... ta da... flash back?
FaeEowynTonks, yes it's confirmed that he is doing Pirates 4.
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Post subject: Posted: October 1st, 2008, 5:40 pm |
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Yeah, I tend not to like flashbacks in films unless we've seen it before (ie. Boromir's death in Return of the King). Mainly because there's too much to get into 2.5 hours of rolling film to add something way back when into the mix.
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Post subject: Posted: October 1st, 2008, 6:19 pm |
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 Sorry for starting this Indiana Jones thing there... I, personally, didn't like it, but hey! Whatever floats other people's boat is cool with me. I was just using that as an example.
PD, Yup. *ish proud of herself* I know. It isn't fair. *pouts* He needs to start getting his priorites straight. I know you did. Even though you were so against the idea of going to see it. TT told you so.  And I didn't mind it.  You want Keria back? I thought you didn't? Say what? Apparently she's doing great for herself. Attonement was nominated for best picture, and then, from the newspaper I've read (which I hate, btw... But you would like it ) she was awesome in The Dutchess too. But... anyways... you offer people enough, they'll come back, I'm sure.
Ha! Shows what you know. Haha, whatever. I'd rather be safe and constricted with you around, thankyouverymuch. I guess so... Ummm... *checks time* I have about 15 minutes left on the compy. Go! Ohohoho! Look whos' actually on the side of Disney now. A new life exreience? That's funny... It really is, I guess...
Quote: And I do sort of agree with you FaeEowynTonks. I personally liked AWE, in fact I like them all. But it seems to me after the success of COTBP, they got a little bit lost in the seriousness, and really by AWE, things were so dark and bleak, thank God for Jack and Barbossa and their being the same as always. It was almost as if the film makers were trying to prove that there was more to POTC than it just being entertaining good fun, which to me, was the whole point and charm of COTBP. It was simply, good fun. It worked quite well, admittedly. It was gradual disaster and bad things, rather than it suddenly just being all doom and gloom, but I did miss the elements that made COTBP as entertaining.
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Post subject: Posted: October 1st, 2008, 10:26 pm |
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Fencing Maiden wrote: This is just my opinion, but I believe that the less deep beginnings of CotBP flowed perfectly into DMC and AWE. Barbossa and the curse was just a taste of a much, much bigger world. Imagine if they had bombarded us with Davy Jones and all in the first movie... it would have ruined it! And in the same way, continuing with the lighthearted mood would have been detrimental to the other two. PotC is a series of stories (though DMC and AWE were really just two stories slightly split). The second two movies in the Pirate trilogy were very deep, very much more mature than the first - but that was because we already knew the characters, and to continue with on-the-surface themes (such as Will and Elizabeth coming to grips with their love) would have made for one very dull film. ....... And as a last, random note, Hans Zimmer better be employed, or there is going to be one verrrry angry FM.
Anyway, to make it easy on myself (yet again ) I’m gonna say that what FM said about DMC and AWE and CotBP leading up to them and flowing in with them… I totally agree with that. VERY well put, FM dear. Actually some of that I never really thought of before... but you are so right. They prepare you for what's next and the mood of each fits each and prepares you for the next chapter in the story.
and on the Hans Zimmer note, I could not agree more! In fact, I was just thinking about that the other day... they NEED him to be in this too. The dude is a genius.
Kit, you are my hero! Huzzah for EITC and Jack prequil love! lol
TT, lol, I guess so. hey now, I wasn't against the idea of seeing Indy 4, I just didn't figure I'd get a chance to see it. but I never didn't WANT to see it. yes, of course I want Keira back! Elizabeth belongs in the movies... I mean, yeah, Will is written out. But honestly there is no way Liz stayed on that stupid island for 10 years.  lol, TT, I'm talking about the Box Office. Keira's movies haven't been huge successes there. I couldn't care less what the stupid people in Hollywood say or give her... we're talking box office here. Yeah, I dunno about The Dutchess yet... I like the time period it's set in. I'll say that. the costumes look gorgeous! yup, that's what my brother says too. If Disney is willing to fork out enough she will take it...
very funny!  alrigth, as you wish. hmmm, I think I'll pass all the same, thank you. Well, sorta... Disney still annoys me and I'm sure they will end up ruining PotC 4... but you never know at the same time. but it's true!_________________ Chase a couple hearts, we could leave 'em in shreds
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