Well, even tho I had wished that the movies would have concentrated a little more on Eowyn and Faramir finding together in the Houses of Healing, I believe you're right, PJ built it up to connect them a little already, or well that's my interpretation, how they fit together even although they haven't met yet in TTT.

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I'm glad that at least in the extended version of The Return of the King they gave Eowyn and Faramir two scenes together. And they have their song, "The Houses of Healing"!

"With a sigh,
You turn away.
With a deepening heart,
No more words to say.
You will find that the wolrd has changed forever.

The leaves are now turning from green to gold,
And the sun is now fading.
I wish I could hold you closer."

Anyway, the book makes up for what's missing from the film. I believe that you can't fully appreciate the film without having the background of the books, but then that's just my opinion.

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Yes, I even learned that song by heart, I thougth it was so beautiful, and fitted for Eowyn. It somehow represents the hope and joy for me that she finds now with the help of Faramir. Even although you don't truly can see it in the movie, you get the impression by this song.

I began reading the books before the second movie came out, and actually finished within a couple of days. But by reading the book before getting to know the Eowyn in the movies helped me understand her character more than if I wouldn't know Tolkien's words for Eowyn.

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Reading the books and watching the films does help you understand characters, and the storyline in general, a lot more, I agree. I can't stop reading the chapter "The Steward and the King"! It's just amazing. Faramir is so kind, and you can just tell that Eowyn is falling in love with him, even though she tries to change the subject when he very subtly brings the subject up.

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Well, I believe at this point she noticed that Faramir felt more for her than friendship, but she still was so sure that her heart belonged to Aragorn. I haven't read this chapter in a while now, maybe I should do that soon again. It's a beautifull way how Tolkien described when she suddenly realised that whom she truly loved was directly in front of her.

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I don't think that Eowyn really ever truly loved Aragorn, that she only believed that she did. Tolkien does say, at her and Aragorn's first meeting, that there was an air of power around him, that she felt. I think that she despaired so much over her life she just wanted to be taken away from it all. I practically cheer when she realises that she loves Faramir! Sad, I know, but it's true.

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Wow... this thread is resurrected, and moving!

What are we talking about, m'dears?

Indeed, it is!
Well... the topic... you could say we're talking about Eowyn's love for Faramir, as well as for Aragorn, in book and movie... am I right, Goldleaf?

I believe Eowyn simply admired Aragorn, for for his strength and maybe also his destiny... and somewhere she wanted to be more than the Rohan princess, or rather be known forever, and loving him and being loved by him would probably be a solution. He came just in the right place and time to meet her, which caused her to fall in love, not with him, but I believe with the possibility of fullfilling her wish.
It's difficult to describe, and I'm not sure if I put it in the right words...

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*Nods* Yup, that's right.

And also, I think you've put it exactly right into words. I think Eowyn wanted to be remembered for her valour and courage. But, by killing the Witchking, she wouldn't be forgotten, as Faramir tells her! But by the time she realises that she loves Faramir, it doesn't matter to her anymore, and she becomes a healer.

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Thanks you

I believe healing people was the right task for her. She still could help her people, well, the Gondorians, and to something good, I couldn't imagine a job better fitting to her.

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Well the Gondorians kind of become her people, don't they? And that just reminded me of a line I really love in the book...

"So am I to leave my own people, man of Gondor? And would you have your proud people say of you, 'there goes a man who tamed a wild shieldmaiden of the north! Was there no woman of the race of Numenor for him to choose?'"

And then Faramir says... "I would."

Or something like that; I just love it!

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Yeah, I remember that line. It somehow makes it even more obvious how much Faramir cares for her, and he tells her, which gives her comfort.

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Another reason why I love Faramir.

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It seems he finds the right words just at the right time for her...

I just found this quote:

Aragorn: Your duty is with your people.

Éowyn: Too often have I heard of duty. But am I not of the House of Eorl, a shieldmaiden and not a dry-nurse? I have waited on faltering feet long enough. Since they falter no longer, it seems, may I not now spend my life as I will?

I think here you see clearly that she has no hope before she finally decides to ride with the Rohirrim. She did not think that there would be a possibility of winning for mankind, and probably didn'T want to stay behind to hear of the deaths of her beloved in the upcoming war.

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That is a good quote.

And also, when she finally rides with the Rohirrim, Merry sees the look in her eyes that tells him she is going to war looking only for death. And even then he only knew her as Dernhelm, she wasn't saying who she really was. That was after she begged Aragorn to let her go with him to the Paths of the Dead, I think.

Aragorn always seems to tell her exactly where (according to him) her duty lies, at home helping her people. And I think if I remember correctly, after she tells him she would not have something high and fine thrown away so rashly, he tells her neither would he - so basically he just doesn't want her to throw her life away.

In fact, just like Gandalf telling Faramir "do not throw away your life so rashly" before he goes off to Osgiliath!

Wow, that was a bit of a ramble...

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Well, that is true, Aragorn has something in him that already makes him act a little kinglike even before he is to be king. He is telling her what would be the right thing to do, what she should do for the greater good of all maybe. But on the other hand, he maybe leaves out what would be the right thing to do from her perspective, so for herself.
And at that point, when he tells her once again that her duty lies with her people, what he even does in the movies, she seems to ignore it when she rides to Pelennor. And with her ignoring his advice, she truly helps the people, all people, when she rids the world of the Witchking.

But it's true, both, Faramir and Eowyn, went to war, expecting death there, even although people told them not to throw away their lives.

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