Rules      FAQ       Register        Login
It is currently August 21st, 2019, 7:12 am

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  [ 153 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10  Next
Author Message
 Post subject:
PostPosted: August 21st, 2005, 5:29 pm 
Ent
Ent
User avatar

Joined: 12 June 2005
Posts: 637
Location: location of what??well...my bed is in my room, the sofa is down stairs...odd question

Offline
^true, i think fell beasts are better in the movie

_________________
Image
Image


Top
 Profile                  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: August 21st, 2005, 5:33 pm 
Istari
Istari
User avatar

Joined: 09 August 2005
Posts: 2024
Location: In my happy place. A very small place, it is.

Offline
:blink: i like in either one

_________________
Image
^Made by MeganElf, Nordic, and Amara! Thank you all!!
Image
^By me! *Gasp*
~*The Anime Obsessed Gentlewoman of A-U*~


Top
 Profile                  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: August 21st, 2005, 10:03 pm 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: 03 June 2005
Posts: 13144
Location: Heaven: Rockin' with Severus Snape
Country: England (en)
Gender: Female

Offline
I think the fell beasts were perfectly potrayed in the movies! :)


Top
 Profile                  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: August 22nd, 2005, 6:38 pm 
Istari
Istari
User avatar

Joined: 09 August 2005
Posts: 2024
Location: In my happy place. A very small place, it is.

Offline
yeah, they were great!

_________________
Image
^Made by MeganElf, Nordic, and Amara! Thank you all!!
Image
^By me! *Gasp*
~*The Anime Obsessed Gentlewoman of A-U*~


Top
 Profile                  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: August 22nd, 2005, 10:11 pm 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: 03 June 2005
Posts: 13144
Location: Heaven: Rockin' with Severus Snape
Country: England (en)
Gender: Female

Offline
I liked how they they had a kind of dragon-ish look, but you could still distinguish them from dragons, because they had many obvious differences.


Top
 Profile                  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: August 25th, 2005, 12:52 pm 
Gondorian
Gondorian
User avatar

Joined: 02 August 2005
Posts: 231
Location: Lothlorien

Offline
Its interesting how tolkien describes the beasts
-"A shadow of doom, A fell rider of the air"-pippin rotk chapter one
-"Of the winged terror. the Nazgul."- rotk chapter 1



Those are a few of the descriptions of the fell beasts, that I looked up in my book. The second qoute proves that the fell beasts are called Nazguls. I was always confused if the the ring wraths were nazguls or the fell beasts intill I read this.

_________________
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/thequest/avatar_camila02.gif">
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/thequest/elijahwoodbanner.jpg>


Top
 Profile       WWW     YIM        
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: August 25th, 2005, 10:20 pm 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: 03 June 2005
Posts: 13144
Location: Heaven: Rockin' with Severus Snape
Country: England (en)
Gender: Female

Offline
Thank you Yaviel for clarifying that the fell beasts are Nazgul! I have been plagued with that question for a long time and I've been unable to decide upon an answer, but that small quote is proof enough for me. :)


Top
 Profile                  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: August 26th, 2005, 12:17 am 
Vala
Vala
User avatar

Joined: 03 June 2005
Posts: 5602
Location: Canada
Country: Canada (ca)

Offline
wait...nazgul = ringwraith...I'm sure...read this from the encyclopedia of Arda:

Nazgûl
Sauron's Nine Servants

Timeline:
Encyclopedia of Arda Timeline

Years of the Trees First Age Second Age Third Age Fourth Age and Beyond

Dates: First seen in c. II 2250; went 'into the shadows' II 3441; reappeared in Middle-earth c. III 1300; finally destroyed in III 3019
Race: Men
Divisions: Various, including some Númenóreans
Pronunciation: na'zgool
Meaning: A word from the Black Speech apparently meaning 'ring-wraith'
Other Names: Ringwraiths, Úlairi
Titles: Black Riders, The Nine, Nine Riders, Nine Servants, Winged Shadows

Note: 'Nazgûl' is both a singular and a plural term

A word from the Black Speech, usually translated 'Ringwraith'; the name of the nine Men corrupted by the power of Sauron's Nine Rings, and transformed into his dark and deathless servants.

_________________
Proud Member of the The Evilishy Nazgûl Alliance for World Domination
{Beri}


Top
 Profile                  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: August 26th, 2005, 1:48 pm 
Istari
Istari
User avatar

Joined: 09 August 2005
Posts: 2024
Location: In my happy place. A very small place, it is.

Offline
Beriadanwen wrote:
wait...nazgul = ringwraith...I'm sure...read this from the encyclopedia of Arda:

Nazgûl
Sauron's Nine Servants

Timeline:
Encyclopedia of Arda Timeline

Years of the Trees First Age Second Age Third Age Fourth Age and Beyond

Dates: First seen in c. II 2250; went 'into the shadows' II 3441; reappeared in Middle-earth c. III 1300; finally destroyed in III 3019
Race: Men
Divisions: Various, including some Númenóreans
Pronunciation: na'zgool
Meaning: A word from the Black Speech apparently meaning 'ring-wraith'
Other Names: Ringwraiths, Úlairi
Titles: Black Riders, The Nine, Nine Riders, Nine Servants, Winged Shadows

Note: 'Nazgûl' is both a singular and a plural term

A word from the Black Speech, usually translated 'Ringwraith'; the name of the nine Men corrupted by the power of Sauron's Nine Rings, and transformed into his dark and deathless servants.


wow

_________________
Image
^Made by MeganElf, Nordic, and Amara! Thank you all!!
Image
^By me! *Gasp*
~*The Anime Obsessed Gentlewoman of A-U*~


Top
 Profile                  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: August 26th, 2005, 10:22 pm 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: 03 June 2005
Posts: 13144
Location: Heaven: Rockin' with Severus Snape
Country: England (en)
Gender: Female

Offline
Ah Beri! Why must you make this more complicated!?!!? Jk......

So I see we have a bit of a dilema. Either I believe what Tolkien has written or I believe a website that has gone into great detail of Tolkiens world. ACK! I must think on this..... :)


Top
 Profile                  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: August 27th, 2005, 3:16 pm 
Vala
Vala
User avatar

Joined: 03 June 2005
Posts: 5602
Location: Canada
Country: Canada (ca)

Offline
Yáviel wrote:
Its interesting how tolkien describes the beasts
-"A shadow of doom, A fell rider of the air"-pippin rotk chapter one
-"Of the winged terror. the Nazgul."- rotk chapter 1


That isn't the entire quote though; when you read the whole thing it says it differently. I'll go find my book and write it out...

EDIT: this is straight fromt the books:

TTT p.117

[Gandalf] "he was a Nazgul, one of the Nine, who ride now upon winged steeds"

And when you look up Nazgul in the index (at the back of RotK) it says in brackets ring-wraith

As for this quote:

"Of the winged terror. the Nazgul."

I think it's because when they are using the fell beasts as steeds they're called a "winged shadow", "winged terror", "winged nazgul", or "winged creatures". If you look up "Winged Nazgul" in the encyclopedia of Arda it says:

" While mounted on these flying beasts, they were known as the Winged Nazgûl. "

_________________
Proud Member of the The Evilishy Nazgûl Alliance for World Domination
{Beri}


Top
 Profile                  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: August 27th, 2005, 10:48 pm 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: 03 June 2005
Posts: 13144
Location: Heaven: Rockin' with Severus Snape
Country: England (en)
Gender: Female

Offline
Ooooooooooooooooh! I get it! So technically you were both right. :)


Top
 Profile                  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: August 31st, 2005, 9:38 pm 
Ent
Ent
User avatar

Joined: 12 June 2005
Posts: 637
Location: location of what??well...my bed is in my room, the sofa is down stairs...odd question

Offline
the tolkien reader, pg xiv:"Of these latter,the most ill-fated, the most gastly are the nazgul, the ringwraiths, each of whom was once a man, a king,who came under the power of the nine rings that were made for mortal men. Astride GREAT BIRDS or riding black horses they cast freezing shadows to and fro over middle earth on thier master's errands, forever calling to one another, in thin voices full of evil and a kind of pitiless sorrow."ect.

notice the words, great birds any clue why they were portrayed more as dragons then birds, but still inbetween the two?

_________________
Image
Image


Top
 Profile                  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: September 2nd, 2005, 2:41 pm 
Ent
Ent
User avatar

Joined: 10 August 2005
Posts: 678
Location: Doriath

Offline
Maybe because there were more birds than dragons in Middle-earth.Just my thought.

_________________
And she was named Elwing,which is Star-spray,for she was born on a night of stars,whose light glittered in the spray of the waterfall of Lanthir Lamath beside her father's house.
Image
Banners by Arwen. Thank you so much, Arwen!
Image


Top
 Profile                  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: September 6th, 2005, 9:45 pm 
Ent
Ent
User avatar

Joined: 12 June 2005
Posts: 637
Location: location of what??well...my bed is in my room, the sofa is down stairs...odd question

Offline
that is a good point elwing. maybe that has something to do with it

_________________
Image
Image


Top
 Profile                  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: September 8th, 2005, 4:28 pm 
Ent
Ent
User avatar

Joined: 10 August 2005
Posts: 678
Location: Doriath

Offline
:-D

_________________
And she was named Elwing,which is Star-spray,for she was born on a night of stars,whose light glittered in the spray of the waterfall of Lanthir Lamath beside her father's house.
Image
Banners by Arwen. Thank you so much, Arwen!
Image


Top
 Profile                  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  [ 153 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
cron




Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group
Boyz theme by Zarron Media 2003