^true, i think fell beasts are better in the movie

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i like in either one

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I think the fell beasts were perfectly potrayed in the movies!

yeah, they were great!

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I liked how they they had a kind of dragon-ish look, but you could still distinguish them from dragons, because they had many obvious differences.

Its interesting how tolkien describes the beasts
-"A shadow of doom, A fell rider of the air"-pippin rotk chapter one
-"Of the winged terror. the Nazgul."- rotk chapter 1



Those are a few of the descriptions of the fell beasts, that I looked up in my book. The second qoute proves that the fell beasts are called Nazguls. I was always confused if the the ring wraths were nazguls or the fell beasts intill I read this.

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Thank you Yaviel for clarifying that the fell beasts are Nazgul! I have been plagued with that question for a long time and I've been unable to decide upon an answer, but that small quote is proof enough for me.

wait...nazgul = ringwraith...I'm sure...read this from the encyclopedia of Arda:

Nazgûl
Sauron's Nine Servants

Timeline:
Encyclopedia of Arda Timeline

Years of the Trees First Age Second Age Third Age Fourth Age and Beyond

Dates: First seen in c. II 2250; went 'into the shadows' II 3441; reappeared in Middle-earth c. III 1300; finally destroyed in III 3019
Race: Men
Divisions: Various, including some Númenóreans
Pronunciation: na'zgool
Meaning: A word from the Black Speech apparently meaning 'ring-wraith'
Other Names: Ringwraiths, Úlairi
Titles: Black Riders, The Nine, Nine Riders, Nine Servants, Winged Shadows
Note: 'Nazgûl' is both a singular and a plural term

A word from the Black Speech, usually translated 'Ringwraith'; the name of the nine Men corrupted by the power of Sauron's Nine Rings, and transformed into his dark and deathless servants.

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wow

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Ah Beri! Why must you make this more complicated!?!!? Jk......

So I see we have a bit of a dilema. Either I believe what Tolkien has written or I believe a website that has gone into great detail of Tolkiens world. ACK! I must think on this.....

That isn't the entire quote though; when you read the whole thing it says it differently. I'll go find my book and write it out...

EDIT: this is straight fromt the books:

TTT p.117

[Gandalf] "he was a Nazgul, one of the Nine, who ride now upon winged steeds"

And when you look up Nazgul in the index (at the back of RotK) it says in brackets ring-wraith

As for this quote:

"Of the winged terror. the Nazgul."

I think it's because when they are using the fell beasts as steeds they're called a "winged shadow", "winged terror", "winged nazgul", or "winged creatures". If you look up "Winged Nazgul" in the encyclopedia of Arda it says:

" While mounted on these flying beasts, they were known as the Winged Nazgûl. "

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Ooooooooooooooooh! I get it! So technically you were both right.

the tolkien reader, pg xiv:"Of these latter,the most ill-fated, the most gastly are the nazgul, the ringwraiths, each of whom was once a man, a king,who came under the power of the nine rings that were made for mortal men. Astride GREAT BIRDS or riding black horses they cast freezing shadows to and fro over middle earth on thier master's errands, forever calling to one another, in thin voices full of evil and a kind of pitiless sorrow."ect.

notice the words, great birds any clue why they were portrayed more as dragons then birds, but still inbetween the two?

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Maybe because there were more birds than dragons in Middle-earth.Just my thought.

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that is a good point elwing. maybe that has something to do with it

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