Sorry for being random, but since my long absence, what has gone on here, I havent been able to check.

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I think it still would have left a hole in his heart as it were. But as for book support for this I dont think there is any. Well, not to my knowledge...

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I don't think that Elrond's opposition to their marriage is so apparent in the book. I believe that's a movie thing. However I have no textual support for this, it's just a feeling I get from reading the books.

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I seem to sense a opposition in the books, but it is still more prevelent in the Movies I agree. Still he does ask quite a high requirement even in the books: King of Gondor and Arnor, that would be a job I probably wouldnt fancy taking on.

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Hey there Telpeath! Long time no see!
To answer you're question, we're discussing Arwen's choice to marry Aragorn versus staying with Elrond, the effects it would have had on Elrond and which was the better choice.
I think you guys are right in that there is nothing about Elrond's life after he sailed away, at least not that I have heard.
I also agree with Firiel. I still feel that he disapproves of their marriage in the books, but not to the magnitude that he does in the movies.
EonwesBestrMate makes a good point that Elrond sent Aragorn away to fulfill an apparently unacheivable quest before he deemed him worthy of his daughter. That said, I think that Elrond saw that Aragorn was best fr his daughter in the end. Remember, Aragorn grew up under Elrond's care and protection. Elrond also had a love for Aragorn, although his love for Arwen was unquestionably greater. Still, she being one of the Eldar, and he being mortal, she was, to quote "to high above him." By acheiving the impossible, he proved that he was worthy of her. Make sense?

Nice point tinuviels tears, i like the way it is put.
The task of becoming King to marry Arwen to me, does not little echo the quest for the silmarill set by thingol to beren for the hand of Luthien. Both Elven Lords, set tasks for mortal men of the house of Beor to win th ehand of a fair maiden .
Coincidence or not coincidence? That is the question.......

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Not coincidence. Destiny. Arwen and Aragorn's story is an echo of the story of beren and Luthien. There are many parallels. The ones you drew and others. That was Tolkien's purpose. Having said that, I think they're two of the most beautiful love stories ever.

I blame Mandos. Oh well. it is ratehr nice the destiny that draws them together lol. Im not goin soppy tho....

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Why blame Mandos? It's not as though he is the one who makes them die, in fact, he is the one who allows Beren and Luthien to return to Middle-earth, if I'm not mistaken. And I don't think you're going "soppy." Not even for a guy. You're right, it's really beautiful how destiny, or love rather, overcomes all and they can be together.

I agree with Tinuviel's Tears, why Blame Mandos?

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Well, hes not wholly responsible. I just dont really like him much, he always seems so miserable and only once was he moved to pity. ONCE. well I do supoose that hangin round with dead people is not gonna do much for makin u happy.......
Random-esque.........

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Well i think it's a little strange Arwen only decides to definatley become mortal after discovering that there is a child to be born.

I do, however, believe that she acted, not out of selfishness, but out of love, and the want to produce offspring with her love.

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That's a movie invention. In the book she never has a moment where she commits to mortality other than when she joins Aragorn at Minas Tirith. Her choice was made years ago in the book and she never turned back.

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They did use quite a bit of poetic license bu tthat was doen to maybe give the film a bit more "there and then" kind of love interest thing.
You know what I mean, despite me not knowing how to say it lol.

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What Firiel said. Arwen married Aragorn because she loved him, if she did see a child, that would only make her happier.

In the other conversation, I don't think mandos was depressing. We don't even really know that his was an "Underworld." All we know is that Men went there after to death to wait...... what they were waiting for I don't remember. the end of all things perhaps. At any rate, there is nothing to suggest that the Halls of Mandos were a bad place. I grant that there is also nothing to suggest that they were a good place, but since we don't know, I don't think we can really judge.

Those who went the halls of Mandos went there to wait and meditate on what they had done in life. Many of us when we make a mistake , are like "ahh, darn it" " and forget it. They think about something they had done that was bad or that the did wrong, and the dwell on it till it overshadows all the good. Living in such a place must have been a little bit depressing, just a little bit. But back on topic please, before the moderators tell us the same thing lol.

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