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Post subject: Re: Downton Abbey  Posted: September 17th, 2011, 12:01 am |
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1. Anna and Bates.  Why are they so adorable. 2. This new semi-ginger girl of Matthew's? She needs to go.  I didn't realize I shipped Matthew/Mary until I saw her hanging around and it hurts. I ran across all the photos from RT about an hour ago -- I'm curious about the blind soldier guy with the curly hair, but from what I can find on IMDB, he's not sticking around for very long. Hmm. It's not like there's any shortage of men in uniform though(This post is so disorganised but I seriously cannot think coherently about this show anymore.  ) _________________ 
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Post subject: Re: Downton Abbey Posted: September 17th, 2011, 12:13 am |
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Post subject: Re: Downton Abbey Posted: September 19th, 2011, 12:21 pm |
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Okay so there are quite a few threads I want to reply to but I never seem to have the time but I just finished Downton and I already want to rewatch it and I totally need to talk about it!Bates and Anna! Bates! Baaaaates!  I do not like Mrs. Bates. I do not like her one bit. On the other hand, Ethel seems like an interesting new character. And I could stand O'Brien a bit more this episode. Though I don't like her telling Lady Crawley about Sybil. But Sybil! Being all awesome! And then refusing Branson how could you? But her making the cake was brilliant. I am so glad Mrs Hughes overheard that conversation. And told Carson. And that people know and don't hate Bates. Mary and Matthew are KILLING me. I'm glad they've already started with a William storyline, so hopefully that goes places! And I don't want Thomas to come back to Downton. It had better not happen.
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Post subject: Re: Downton Abbey Posted: September 19th, 2011, 7:59 pm |
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I knew when the series ended last year that Mrs. Bates would be appearing, but I never knew how fast Anna and Bates' courtship would get to actual proposals, so I wasn't sure how she would affect them. COW! But I am really glad that Mrs. Hughes had the foresight to listen in on them - she must have been suspicious of Mrs. Bates and I'm glad that Carson and the Lord know the truth. Someone needs to tell Anna though.
I didn't like Ethel to begin with but I think she will be a good character once she settles down a bit.
I can't stand O'Brien. How she would have the gall to carry on with her normal nastiness, still sucking up to Her Ladyship after she was the reason her son died..... ... it makes me so MAD that so far she has neither changed for the better or looks like she is even still feeling guilty. Unlike other stories where characters accidentally see or hear something, the whole incident with the soap is purely O'Brien, so unless she is on her deathbed and confesses or she suddenly becomes very guilty and feels the need to disclose the truth, I can't see how anyone is ever going to know what an evil git she is. I don't even think she told Thomas... would be awesome if she told him and he then blackmailed her. Muahuahauahauaha.
I like the idea that Sybil is getting stuck in as well, it feels very natural for her character. I felt really sorry for Branson, but I thought it was odd that he thought he would be fired for saying what he did. Did he really think she would tell someone?
I think Edith is much abused in this show. I think some of her actions come off as being mean spiritied, but it was pretty much shown from the start that as the youngest, the one without great beauty or a feisty spirit (although I think she is very pretty actually, more so than Sybil), and with an older sister who has been less than kind to her (although after the Turk incident it's clear Edith feels like she has more power to be nasty to Mary), she's sort of the lesser of the three and doesn't make the same impact. I thought it was pretty darn mean of Mary last year to chase away the Lord that Edith really liked, Turk or no Turk so I am looking forward to next week's episode as I hope something good or exciting will happen to Edith to make people more aware of her and treat her as her own person, not simply the lesser beauty and the younger of three.
Thomas will definitely be back. I knew he was going to get himself injured (must admit I thought he would shoot himself in the leg or something, so many did). THOMAS SPOILERS I have seen an advert where he is back in his uniform with Carson grabbing him by the scruff of his neck, hoiking him down some stairs... maybe to be kicked out forever?
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Post subject: Re: Downton Abbey Posted: September 20th, 2011, 9:47 am |
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I thought Edith was the middle girl, Sybil the youngest? I felt like she was passed over because she wasn't as pretty as Mary and wasn't the "baby" or as outgoing and cheery and Sybil. I don't like her though.  I felt sorry for her at the beginning, because I could see the history and why she would be upset with the others. But I think she took her revenge too far and really was just horrible with it. I knew Thomas would be back in the area, but I don't want him to be working in the house!  So I hope you're right. Ahaha, O'Brien telling Thomas about her involvement and then getting blackmailed would be a fantastic storyline terrible because blackmail is bad.  _________________ going on a journey through my old claims
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Post subject: Re: Downton Abbey Posted: September 20th, 2011, 10:08 am |
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Post subject: Re: Downton Abbey Posted: September 20th, 2011, 6:29 pm |
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...What to reply to first?  On O'Brien: Yep, she's awful, but I've never hated her, even though what she did to Cora was wretched. I'm sure she has a lot of guilt over it -- but at this point in the show, it's been two years since then for the characters, and while it doesn't excuse what she did, she's at least had time to deal with it -- and so has Cora. Still, I think that story is far from over with, and it'll be interesting to see if they take it anywhere. On Edith: I'm looking forward to her storyline this season. I'm not sure if I like her or not; I go back and forth. On the one hand, I feel sorry for her, but she's still very unpleasant at times. I hope she ends up happy though; it seems like Mary has gotten in the way of one too many of her relationships, and that's not fair. On Thomas: I really, really hope that none of you on this site are Thomas-haters, because they exist and I will take them down because I adore him. Re: spoilers, I thought that was William, not Thomas, that Carson was hauling off? That would make sense, since William is still a servant._________________
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Post subject: Re: Downton Abbey Posted: September 20th, 2011, 8:06 pm |
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Post subject: Re: Downton Abbey Posted: September 25th, 2011, 7:07 pm |
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Emotions. Someone take them away so I can function as a normal human being again. SPOILERS: Edward. Why. I mean, I knew it was never going to work out with him and Thomas... but that was cruel. Ugh. My heart. Let me die. /gonedownwiththisship
My twisted broken bleeding heart aside -- so much fabulous character development. O'Brien and Lang? Shipping it. It was nice to see her acting like she has a heart. And Edith driving the tractor and being happy on the farm was awesome. I like seeing her happy.
I'm worried for William though. He's too naive and enthusiastic... and I have a horrible feeling that that means he's going to die.  ... Other, more popular characters? What? What are those? Mary who? I like my unpopular characters thank you_________________
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Post subject: Re: Downton Abbey Posted: September 26th, 2011, 5:35 pm |
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^  You can have those characters, I'll keep my Mary and Matthew and Branson and Bates. So, it was nice to see O'Brien with some humanity. I hope that keeps up. Edith on the farm....I feel like they wanted us to sympathize with her for not getting to go back, but seriously girl. You went and kissed the guy. Who was married. And his wife was already not happy with how close the two of were before that. What did you think was going to happen? I want to like Edith. I want to feel sympathy for her, and I think her character is interesting. But I cannot like her. Michelle Dockery is a wonderful actress. And that is all. Bransonnnnn! Oh my, his face after Sybil says she could never go back to her life after Downton. Hope! Speaking of faces, Maggie Smith when Cora tells her that this is hers and Robert's house and they will do as they darn well please.  _________________ going on a journey through my old claims
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Post subject: Re: Downton Abbey Posted: September 26th, 2011, 10:55 pm |
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I guess I don't need to write spoiler anymore as only we three seem to be watching this, and I know you two have seen the latest episode.
Both Thomas and O'Brien showing they might have some soul and are not totally 100% evil, is a little but much to stomach in a single episode. Considering Thomas is back 5 minutes and already stirring things again (loved the scene with Thomas and Carter: "Have you seen our visitor"? [Carson without looking] "I've seen him" [leaves] Awesome) and the fact O'Brien has the cheek to still suck up to her ladyship after what she's done. She seems to have mellowed slightly towards Cora as she was quite handy badmouthing her when she felt like last series so maybe she has some guilt. Seemed a bit of a "let's just throw it out there so people know she's not evil" concerning her brother. It's probably the only scene I really question throughout the entire show. Seemed forced to me. But I did feel sorry for Thomas. Although I think he pretty much knew there was never going to be anything between him and Edward, I think there was going to be a genuine friendship there rather than him using Edward for whatever reason so it was a shame that for a change, he couldn't have helped someone else, as maybe that's what he needs, to really help someone rather than cause trouble for others.
Ah, Edith. She has been looked over, brushed aside, forgotten etc etc, and this was most likely her first ever sense of true freedom. She has finally got her way, is feeling useful and is doing something that makes her happy. She's not having to worry about airs and graces and protocol and she is able to be herself for the first time. (If she was talking to a man at Downtown, she would never be able to speak as freely or as easily as she can with the farmer). To be honest, I blame the farmer bloke just as much, if not more than Edith as he was clearly hitting on her I think, before Edith was even aware of the temptation. I'm not saying she always does the right thing, sometimes she really doesn't think things through, and I guess that she didn't think of the consequences of letting him kiss her. Who knows, maybe Mary's tryst made her think that a kiss would hardly be wrong? Either way, I guess this kind of liberation was something that when it was handed to females during the war, they probably did things they would never normally have done, especially when that someone was like Edith, who in her normal surroundings was never given any attention from males. Even the chauffeur prefers her sister.
Awww, Branson and Sybil. He looked just so hopeful it was adorable. I have no idea why Carson is hauling him out of the house after mentioning the fact he was preventing murder (but judging by the fact that the servants in the kitchen are simply carrying on with their normal chores, I'm guessing it's no more than an argument, perhaps with the Lord and Carson is preventing Branson from being the "murdered").
I MISSED MY BATESY! Seriously. I actually don't know how I got through an epsiode without him and Anna together. I feel they're love story is probably the strongest one of the lot (although not as visible as everyone else's romances, Cora Robert probably have the best romance as after everything they have been through, they still clearly love each other very much and really work as a team).
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Post subject: Re: Downton Abbey Posted: October 9th, 2011, 10:50 pm |
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Okay. So. I just watched the most recent episode. SPOILERS. I'm getting rather fond of Edith now, actually. It seems like in the last episode and this one she's come into her own. And people are getting along and it's just nice. It also probably helped reading about how things could have been had she been the son, and that really put her relationship with the others into a better perspective for me. So yeah. Not to say I won't shake my head at her anymore, but I like her more than I used to. Thomas and O'Brien. I WANTED TO PUNCH THEM. Or more. I yelled at the computer screen more than one really should. Actually, my throat kind of hurts from the "GRRR"s and "AARG"s and "GAAAAHHH"s that I did. But seriously! Thomas making Daisy get him tea. And O'Brien being all "they're stealing food, let's go get them all sacked!" And then the both of them being like, "TAKE BATES DOWN BECAUSE OF....REASONS". DON'T you be messing with my Bates. I'm not quite sure how I feel about Moseley. I half expect him to turn out to be a German spy or something. I'm not a huge fan of him. I felt a little bad for him not getting to take over as valet for a while, but that was a bit overshadowed by Bates returning. I love Branson and Sybil, but they need to grow more before they can get together. Branson cannot essentially call what she does 'nothing' and expect her to be okay with it. I'm guessing the Russian revolution not working the way he expects will do interesting things for his character. And THE moment. For me. The concert. The singing. Adorable. MATTHEW. I literally gasped. And then throughout the rest of the scene I had tears in my eyes. HOW he could not see her emotions when he walked in! He has to know that she's still in love with him. Or else he's gone blind. So excited for next week! _________________ going on a journey through my old claims
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Post subject: Re: Downton Abbey Posted: October 10th, 2011, 6:00 pm |
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Yay you are almost converted! 
I loved it last week when you could tell immediately that Edith was going to be very comfortable helping the men and making life easier for them. I don't think she appears such a cold fish as Mary and also Sybil to strangers, she has a more sweeter look about her, and I think out of all the sisters she would be happy to actually spend time talking to the men and getting to know them. It was great when the whole family was around the table when the general said how well the men thought of her. It was a YES moment for me. I felt sorry for her this week that Lord Grantham had told her about Matthew and William, it was a big secret she was asked to keep, and I think she was right to tell Mary about it, as I'm sure if anything bad had happened, Mary would have been angry at not being told.
It is so clear that O'Brien's main aim in life is to make sure that nothing happens at Downton that will relfect bad on Her Ladyship. Judging by next week's preview, she is seriously going to regret everything she did concerning Lady Mary and the Turk. I honestly think the way she is zealously looking for stuff to snitch to Her Ladyship about, in the hopes it will please her, I think she would sell Thomas down the river in a moment if O'Brien thought he would do anything to harm Her Ladyship, and that includes anyone related to her. So I think next week is going to be a good episode.
Moseley is an unusual character in as much as he doesn't do much, but he is quite a big part of Downton whenever he appears. He is kinda the connection between the big house and where Matthew lives. He's quite well respected and liked enough, and yet he never seems to advance further as the footman/valet in a small middle-class house, but he can move easily from one to the other, and I think it makes him interesting that he has this connection with both houses. I think there is something bigger to come from him.
I love Branson and Sybil too. If they just dropped the barriers and the "details" and just actually, you know, talk to one another about things like normal couples do, they'd probably forget all about the details, but at the moment it's just very heated, and Sybil has yet to even say "I love you", so why is she even going on about leaving this that and the other! It's a very strange relationship at the moment especially when she says that she doesn't even know if she likes him! I hope they get together because I think she would like the life he could give her and he needs smacking on the head for his revolutionary ideas. Dude, you're working for posh English people, if you hate them that much, leave.
I'm really happy that Matthew and William are OK. I just knew they would walk in then, I just knew it. Cheesy, yes, but quite wonderful. I had my doubts about William surviving, but I know have a suspicion that something is going to happen to Mrs. Crawley, as there is going to be a casualty somewhere and now she is in the firing line as it were, I think it may be her. I can see where Cora was coming from regrading Isobel, but still she was only trying to do what she thought was best for the people in her care. I think if anything happens to her, Cora is really going to regret her words.
And as far as I'm concerned, Ethel has blotted her copybook with her own stupidity and foolishness and to come crawling back and burdening Mrs. Hughes with her problems... gah, I have no time for Ethel anymore. She kept whinging that service wasn't what she wanted and that she wanted to be free, well she's free now. I do wonder why the major wasn't reprimanded for being caught with her though, he needs to be sorted out as well.
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Post subject: Re: Downton Abbey Posted: October 14th, 2011, 11:53 pm |
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[color=white]IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO KNOW ANY MAJOR STORY DEVELOPMENTS FOR THE NEXT EPISODE THEN DON'T READ THIS!
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Post subject: Re: Downton Abbey Posted: October 14th, 2011, 11:53 pm |
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IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO KNOW ANY MAJOR STORY DEVELOPMENTS FOR THE NEXT EPISODE THEN DON'T READ THIS!
Matthew and William are both badly injured. William suffers damage to his lungs and Matthew sustains terrible injuries to his spine, resulting in him being confined to a wheelchair with the prospect of never walking again or being able to have children.
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Post subject: Re: Downton Abbey Posted: October 19th, 2011, 12:27 am |
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MY HEART.
This was a depressing episode. Good, but depressing. William! So sad. I'm glad Daisy stuck with him though.
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