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Post subject: Posted: March 4th, 2007, 5:55 pm |
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*ventures right into heavy crossfire*
Ohhh... wow... angryness...! *edges away*
I'll try to say something I've been wondering... or observing for a while.. or think I've been noticing...about the RPG's on A-U, but I don't want it to come off the wrong way...
Hmmm isn't it like the RPG's here have become more elitist and sorta professionalized?
A long time ago... maybe even a year ago, I saw a lot of RPG's starting off without a plot; elves meet in a random wood, they go on adventure - very boring, people posted three line-posts and tended to be quite Mary Sue-ish, and the RPG's died out quickly.
I'm sure they still exist, but during the last 4-5 months... maybe at the same time this club was founded, the RPG's seems to have become a lot bigger and more detailed. The hardcore RP'ers meet here and encourage and inspire each other to get better all the time, and the standard is really high. You are all great writers!
But... based on the discussions here, to me it sounds like you might scare other RP'ers away... people who might be less dedicated or have lesser writing skills - or just a different style. I mean when you spend so much time RP'ing, I understand why you demand a certain level of quality in the posts, but... can everyone meet the expectations? And if they aren't great RP'ers and writers yet... they might just need a friendly nudge in the right direction or an opportunity to discuss their plots or characters, someone to spar with...? I don't know if the harsh tone I sense in your discussion here is to be taken literally, but it comes off just slightly intimidating sometimes.
Well, just a thought that crossed my mind. RPG'ing here is completely foreign to me and I never follow any RPG's through, I'm only browsing a couple of posts or pages occasionally, so in fact I might not even be entitled to have a sound opinion about it. 
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Post subject: Posted: March 4th, 2007, 6:10 pm |
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Joined: 10 September 2005 Posts: 5839 Location: P3X-774, Rohan, Moya, or my TARDIS
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Meldawen wrote: Point taken  Also, characters with no personality. That just sit there and make sure their horse is okay. Please.
But I like my character's horse!  Hehe. The horse is my fall back. if I don't have anythingto write about, I say somthing about the horse. I'm a bad girl. Oh well. Horses are pretty!
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Post subject: Posted: March 4th, 2007, 6:43 pm |
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That was sort of an example, the horse thing  What I mean is, every character should have a unique way to react to a situation. They should have little quirks and flaws that make them - them.
And Ea, you did sort of catch us in a bit of a rant phase, but you could be right. However, I don't think we're elitist. If that's what you meant. Anybody can join an RPG, we don't shut anyone out. We can be a little dismissive at times, I know I have in the past, but we're not attempting to form our own little clique that nobody else is allowed to venture itno. That's what the RPers' Club is here for, to give helpful hints and tips and to discuss RPing. Anyone's welcome.
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Post subject: Posted: March 4th, 2007, 8:32 pm |
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Joined: 11 August 2005 Posts: 1303 Location: Earth
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Apart from Mary-Sues, mine is also posts that have no character developement or add to plot. I don't mind short posts (sometimes you just can't write long-posts, especially if you're in a scene with a lot of dialouge) as long as they are helping the story move along.
I hate posts like:
"Storm glared at Magneto" End of post.
That's fantastic. That shouldn't be suprising seeing Magneto is the bad guy and Storm is the good guy. I don't care that you're glaring. I want to know why and how a character's brain works.
Also like pirateoftherings said, I can't stand people playing a canon who aren't staying true to the character. I mean, you can't do everything exactly like them but you can get pretty close. I don't know about the rest of you but it is actually painful for me to read a someone playing a canon character's post that does not depict the character at all.
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Post subject: Posted: March 4th, 2007, 8:56 pm |
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I have noticed that more and more rpgs start off with a definite plotline, and if there isn't one, the rpers tend to come up with one along the way. My own rpg posts have grown in correspondence with the increase of good rpers. I still remember how a year ago, there'd be plenty of rpgs simply titled "Fantasy RPG."
Perhaps my greatest irritation in an rpg comes from spam. It's one thing when you post something that gives fellow rpers absolutely no inspiration to post something back, but it's even worse when you post something completely useless and expect someone to reply within the next few hours. [a cute little bump  ] and [*waits for [insert username here]*] are just a few. I've been in rpgs where entire pages were comprised of nothing more than out of character posts/palaver/bumps.
sorry, that was my rant of the day.
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Post subject: Posted: March 4th, 2007, 8:58 pm |
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Joined: 10 September 2005 Posts: 5839 Location: P3X-774, Rohan, Moya, or my TARDIS
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I bit of a peeve that I have is when people put there character's actions in asterics, ie: "I would really love to ride the princess pony of glee and delight!" *skips over to pony and mounts into the saddle*
RPs should be like writing a story.
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Post subject: Posted: March 4th, 2007, 10:03 pm |
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Joined: 11 August 2005 Posts: 1303 Location: Earth
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Oh yeah. That is really annoying.
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Post subject: Posted: March 4th, 2007, 10:08 pm |
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I've only seen one person do that. But it did bother me.
*skips over to pony and mounts in saddle* < 
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Post subject: Posted: March 5th, 2007, 12:32 am |
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*ducks and hides*
I usually don't play many canon charries, because I don't want to mess them up, and also because it's more fun for me to develop my own charrie. lol I try to post as that canon charrie would act, but I'm sure I don't always do too well (and sometimes I bet I do pretty horrible. lol). But anyway.
Also, sometimes I fall into the "short post" trap. I can't think of much of anything to post, but I still want to <i>post</i>. I still try to post decent material though. lol
My pet peeves-
Mary Sues. I honestly haven't seen that many lately, but when I do see them, they tend to bug me.
I'm sure I'm being hypocritical here, but it also can bug me when people post without giving other charries a chance for interaction.
And the *skips through the daises* thing can bug me too, although I've rarely seen that.
Anyway, there's my mini-rant for the evening *bows* (whoops, I just used the dreaded asteriks! lol) Thank you, thank you.
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Post subject: Posted: March 5th, 2007, 1:11 am |
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Falathiel Lothendhel wrote: Also like pirateoftherings said, I can't stand people playing a canon who aren't staying true to the character. I mean, you can't do everything exactly like them but you can get pretty close. I don't know about the rest of you but it is actually painful for me to read a someone playing a canon character's post that does not depict the character at all.
Well, and part of it for me is that some people don't try to find someone they're good at. I don't expect everyone to be perfect at every single character. There are several characters who I'm sure I would play horribly. So I don't play them. I've found my basic group that I can play, and while I do still enjoy branching out, I don't take any roles that I don't feel confident I can handle. If you (using "you" as a general term) have tried over and over to play, say, Gandalf, and no matter how hard you tried you couldn't get him right, then I'd probably say that you're not best suited to play Gandalf. You should move on to another character and let someone else try it. Don't keep on insisting upon playing Gandalf if it's obvious that you can't do it.
Maybe it's just me, but I find it far more enjoyable to play characters who I know I'm decent with.
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Post subject: Posted: March 5th, 2007, 1:25 am |
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pirateoftherings wrote: Maybe it's just me, but I find it far more enjoyable to play characters who I know I'm decent with.
lol, yea. My thoughts exactly.
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Post subject: Posted: March 5th, 2007, 6:01 am |
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Eä wrote: *ventures right into heavy crossfire* Ohhh... wow... angryness...! *edges away* I'll try to say something I've been wondering... or observing for a while.. or think I've been noticing...about the RPG's on A-U, but I don't want it to come off the wrong way... Hmmm isn't it like the RPG's here have become more elitist and sorta professionalized? A long time ago... maybe even a year ago, I saw a lot of RPG's starting off without a plot; elves meet in a random wood, they go on adventure - very boring, people posted three line-posts and tended to be quite Mary Sue-ish, and the RPG's died out quickly. I'm sure they still exist, but during the last 4-5 months... maybe at the same time this club was founded, the RPG's seems to have become a lot bigger and more detailed. The hardcore RP'ers meet here and encourage and inspire each other to get better all the time, and the standard is really high. You are all great writers!  But... based on the discussions here, to me it sounds like you might scare other RP'ers away... people who might be less dedicated or have lesser writing skills - or just a different style. I mean when you spend so much time RP'ing, I understand why you demand a certain level of quality in the posts, but... can everyone meet the expectations? And if they aren't great RP'ers and writers yet... they might just need a friendly nudge in the right direction or an opportunity to discuss their plots or characters, someone to spar with...? I don't know if the harsh tone I sense in your discussion here is to be taken literally, but it comes off just slightly intimidating sometimes.  Well, just a thought that crossed my mind. RPG'ing here is completely foreign to me and I never follow any RPG's through, I'm only browsing a couple of posts or pages occasionally, so in fact I might not even be entitled to have a sound opinion about it. 
I wouldn't say that all of the RPGs are like that. Yeah, we can be kind of....excluding, in some of them, but most of the RPGs don't seem to be like that. Of course, the better ones started with lots of people in them, and then the noobs/halfhearted ones dropped out, and the best ones stayed in. Then, when the RPG looks really really really good, the plot is normally too intertwined to make it easy for others to join, especially if they aren't that great. And they might feel a little intimidated at the skill that the posters have, or at the character development. Not that I'm talking about Star Crystal or anything, though....  Seriously, though, LDM's and Melda's character development is...intimidating.
Haha, LDM. You and spam.  I find your reaction so hilarious, like in Phantom Grey. 
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Post subject: Posted: March 5th, 2007, 10:18 am |
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Oh dear me..... I am lost. Is there and on going RPG question hear? I can't focus enough to read all of this right now, as my sister is rambling.
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Post subject: Posted: March 5th, 2007, 12:53 pm |
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Joined: 01 June 2006 Posts: 8449 Location: Adragonback
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Indeed, Aerandir, and that's why you have my everlasting admiration for venturing to join  Fifty-five (about) pages of character development before you came in has to be a pretty intimidating thing. So I give you props
And yes SG, we're talking about our RPG pet peeves. Mary-Sues...pointless posts...spam...that sort of thing.
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Post subject: Posted: March 5th, 2007, 1:23 pm |
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I would have to heartily agree with what PotR said about people who fancy themselves the masterminds of a character, when in reality they have a lot to work on. Frankly, I'm never content with the way I play a character [besides a little genious one-liner now and then], and I'm always striving like a madwoman to improve. So naturally, it bugs me when a person come flouncing in as if this character is their expertise and life-time study.
Another pet peeve [yes, pet, my preciousss] would have to be MAJOR plot changes without any warning to the other RPers. Say for instance we're having a calm LotR RP, we're doing something in Gondor... and all of a sudden some Mary Sue comes driving up in a time machine singing lyrics by Evanescence, and saving the day with her m@d skillzzz! And everyone else stands there awkwardly, not knowing how to respond, and usually the RP croaks over and dies soon after. Sigh. Plot twists are good - when they are reasonable and comprehensible.
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Post subject: Posted: March 5th, 2007, 4:54 pm |
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^Aye, FM. That bugs me when someone who's not the starter of the RP tries to completely change it up.
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