I don't think he would have been angry, really. More just sad or disappointed. After all, not only was Arwen his daughter, but he thought of Aragorn as another son in many ways. He perhaps would have tried to persuade his daughter otherwise to make sure she was really making the right decision, and because he knew how much he would miss her. In the end though, I think he supported her decision and saw that it was the right thing to do.

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@ArwenEvenstar: Yep, I completely agree with you on your point. I think Elrond didn't want to lose his only daughter, but he also knew that Aragorn would really take care of her and be a good husband. He knew him for such a long time and could really trust him.
And when Arwen and Aragorn were reunited at the coronation you could really see in his face that he was not only sad, but also happy to see his daughter smiling again. And I guess he wouldn't have followed Arwen's order to reforge Narsil/Anduril if he hadn't supported her...

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^ Wonderful answers, both of you! I'm really not sure if there's anything left for me to add...

In the end, I think Elrond just wanted to see his daughter happy, even if that meant losing her forever. There's a quote that says "If you really love something let it go" or something like that, I think that's kind of what Elrond was thinking. But I admire his courage in allowing Arwen to become mortal, because he's already lost people he loves to mortality (his parents and his twin Elros) and now he's about to lose another. (and whatever became of the twins anyway? did they go with their parents? sorry I'm off-topic...)

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I think Elrond was mad because he wanted Arwen to be with him always and he was mad at Aragorn for taking her away from him.

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Well...maybe not mad exactly...he probably felt regret and sorrow at losing his only daughter. But I don't think that deep down he really felt angry at his "adopted" son.

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I don't believe Elrond was really mad as well. He was really sad, but he did not hate his daughter for her decision. I think the scene that captures their feelings best is the one when the book falls down from Arwen's hands and Elrond picks it up and then they have the short conversation. There you really see that this decision is not easy for both of them, but I think Elrond can understand or at least imagine Arwen's motives and feelings.

@Ánië: I have no idea what happened to the twins by the way. They're not mentioned further in the books, but I'm wondering what happened with them as well...

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That's kinda what I figured. Thanks though.
(And I've been wondering since the beginning what that book Arwen dropped was... but that's off topic soo...nevermind.)

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Interesting question. I've never really thought about that before.
Well, I think the book they used in the movies was an Elvish poetry book. I read that some time ago, because the calligrapher filled it with handwritten Elvish poems. But I don't know if there's a deeper meaning behind it. Perhaps it contained old poems of the Elves and symbolized in a way a connection to Arwen's "roots" and now that the book falls out of her hands, the connection to the Eldar is lost. But that's just speculation... *loves to interpret things and to speculate *

OK. I've thought about a new topic again:

Do you think Arwen ever regretted her decision to give up her immortality? In the book Elrond's prophecy shows a really sad ending for her connected with much grief and also in the "Tale of Arwen and Aragorn" her end is described as very sad and bitter. Do you think that she imagined her choice to be that hard to bear when she made it?

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Mmm...Could I perhaps join to this club?

I think there were some times she regretted it, but I think for the most part, she was happy with it.

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I'm sure you'd be welcome to, RDM!!

I think that at the end she would have been extremely sad, but I don't think she really would have regretted it. Aragorn died, but she got to join him soon afterward. Otherwise they would have been seperated forever. And although I'm sure she missed her family, I don't think that she would have truly regretted her choice.

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Oh, that's cool! Thanks for telling me!

As to the question, I think that maybe once in a while she did regret it for an instant or two, probably when she thought about her father and mother. But then she probably saw one of her children or her husband and she knew she'd made the right decision. OOH now I have an idea for a fanfic!!! *dances off to write*

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@RDM: Yes, you're more than welcome to join this club!

@Ánië Súrion: I look forward to reading your fan fic. Will you post it here on A-U?


Well, I agree with the general opinion that Arwen was "happy" with her decision for most of the time. It must have been really hard for her sometimes, but it definitely was the right choice. I think that really becomes obvious when she tells Elrond in ROTK that "some things are certain" and that "she will regret it forever if she leaves Aragorn now".

Hm, Elrond was mainly against her decision at the beginning. What could Galadriel's position be as Arwen's grandmother? I've seen some screen shots on the main site that must be taken from the FotR EE and that show Galadriel and Aragorn talking somehow about the Evenstar pendant. Does anyone know what her opinion is or can you imagine how she might have felt about Arwen's fate?

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^I toaly agree

I guess she would feel...I dono, cuz it's like she is losing her grand daughter to s mortal man, which means she will die. But she is happy.

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In the FOTR EE version, Galadriel sounds supportive of Arwen's decison and she warns Aragorn that she must take the Grey Havens or him, but that choice is before her. Aragorn wants her to take the Grey Havens.

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