Yes, the House/Wilson was absolutely fantastic! Oh Wilson in general is fantastic but that just put it over the edge. Wilson's way too good for House, and his pessimistic attitude!

"Right. Detroit. The Afterlife. Same thing."

I like 13 because she reminds me of Cameron. Or, what I imagine probably how Cameron started out as a doctor. The difficulty with dealing with death is evident. But I do like how House said, "You're not fired, because I know you'd never let anything like this happen again."


I liked Foreman's parallel, and you're right----it doesn't really relate to cases but it does relate to House's conduct and how much he's been able to slide. Imagine, what if Foreman did a jerk thing like yell to a patient that there is no heaven or break into the patient's house. That's why Foreman's out of the job, and maybe he's turning more into House than he would like, but he now realizes the extent of breaking the rules can save a patient's life out of protocol, and maybe in that essence, he doesn't mind being House.

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Okay, can I just say....with the loss of the ducklings (sort of) and the lack of permanent new ones to really focus on....I'm REALLY loving the newfound attention given to House/Wilson. I mean, it's ALWAYS been there. And whether or not there's been an increase or not in the attention given to them. It SEEMS like there is. You know? So hopefully their relationship can be expanded upon or something. I don't really know where I was going with that. XD

As for your comment on 13, I quite agree. She's very "Cameron-esque." XD And I'm not sure if that's why I don't like her as much as I should. I mean, she started out as that pretty face, but has proven that she's smart, caring...and makes mistakes. In all, I should like her. Well, I do...much more than *beep* doctor woman. Whatever her number is. And if a woman needs to be chosen, I hope 13 is chosen. Because I'll be really disgusted and annoyed with *beep* woman doctor. Oh well.

And about Forman...I could see Forman's sort of subtle realization that House did have a point. You know? I think when he had to defend his argument, and when he was fired, I think you're right. I think he's seeing that he is like House. But in all the right ways. I definately saw that. I was just saying, when they put in the random bits of him....it seemed sort of sudden on some occasions. Just like, "OH, I think we'll plop Forman in here....OH, and here too." It was a good arch....just randomly placed. Am I making sense? XD His introduction wasn't as subtle/smooth as I would've liked it.

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Hopefully they'll force House and Foreman together sometime, a bit of "Here we are now. What's happened to us." kind of thing.


That's the exact same reason why I didn't like 13 too, I mean, I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO REPLACE CAMERON!! I actually kind of have a feeling that House might hire two females this time? To me it seemed as though House cared about Foreman and Chase the most more than Cameron, so maybe not to get hurt again he'll pick two girls. I just really, really like the black guy whose name we don't know yet because House doesn't know them.

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Dude, Cutthroat witch needs to go. I want to punch that chick in the face. Seriously. And I haven't really been paying too much attention to the girls, but I love all of the guys.

And the Foreman parallel thing didn't do it for me. I liked where they went with it, I just didn't like the scenes. I did (this'll probably sound terrible) like where he got fired. ot the fact that he got fired, the fact that he finally realized that reality is a lot harsher than House's little "ideal" world.

And, another complaint before I go on to the love, House is really not dumb enough to stick a knife in a light socket. Writers: what were you thinking? No way. House isn't suicidal, and he wouldn't risk his own neck like that. Actually, he might, but in this case, he was simply not provoked enough to go and do something that stupid.

Anyway, love love love. House/Wilson scene. Amazing. I love Wilson. And I love House. I'm not necessarily a House/Wilson shipper, but I like each of them seperately, so together, that's a scene that equals amazing.

And, Chase putting Cutthroat Witch down was completely and utterly awesome. It was...wow. I love love love Chase, and the fact that he saw right through her and was like "are you kidding me right now?" was awesome to the max. Yay to seeing more Chase.

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Ooh, I should comment!

I agree that Cuthroat girl needs to leave. Now. If House hires her, I'll be seriously ticked off.

I guess I'm a minority--I loved the Foreman thing. See, he left because he didn't want to turn into House, right? And then he turned into House (taking a risk and giving the patient treatment) and got fired. Ooooh.

I was a little put-off by the House light socket thing because it seemed like it should have a) not been there at all or b) been given its own episode and more development. I do love the on-going questions about faith in the show.

Can't wait for the next episode! Dead people!

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I liked the whole idea of the Foreman thing, I just didn't think the execution was as flawless as I had hoped it would be. But I pretty much agree with you, Firiel.

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I'm with you on the liking the Foreman-storyline, Firiel.


Okay. Before the episode aired, I absolutely hated the thought of putting a knife in a socket idea---trust me, go back a page or two and you will see my "Verbal" grievances, but after I saw it in context with the episode, I LOVED IT. It makes all the sense in the world. House ever since season 03 has been spiraling down and in this episode he's been tested with the situation of one of his clinic patients goes and stabs an outlet. Later, the clinic patient reasons that he was looking for the ultimate high, he hadn't felt anything like that ever before.

This sparks House's curiosity. Last season, House faked cancer to get a implant in his brain so that he can continually get high. So what's shoving a knife in an outlet compare? How does it feel? Would it really be the greatest feeling like the clinic patient said?

And there's the parallel storyline of whether or not there's an afterlife. House gripes, "There's <i>nothing</i>." So there's a 50/50 chance of experiencing a high and finding out what's after death. His anxiousness to talk to clinical patient may imply that he did experience that momentary high, and his line at the end in morgue with his actual patient, "I hate to say this but, I told you so." implies that he saw nothing after death.

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So, Kit, and everyone...I think there should be a team excursion to the official House website.
WHY? Because they have these little video things of the cast....talking about stuff....and one with the old ducklings. VERRRY interesting.

AND there was one with Robert Sean Leonard...saying something about Wilson watching "movie-of-the-week Lifetime movies." Ha ha ha ha ha!

And dude, ya'll remember that Africa shirt House was wearing in the first episode? Yeah, you can buy it! Ha ha ha ha! How cool is that? XD

ANYway...

And what Kit said about the knife in the socket thing is true. I forgot to mention it, but it wasn't a suicide attempt. I actually NEVER saw it like that. Because I don't think House thinks like that. He can be depressed, and takes a lot of Viacodin. But that doesn't make him suicidal. In fact I actually think he enjoys life. But, as Kit said, it was trying to find that "ulitimate high."

And as for Foreman....after what Tar said, I really think it's an interesting arch for Foreman. Let me see, how can I say this...in actual words? I think he realized...not that reality is a harsh world. But, that not everyone thinks like House. And at the time as his duckling, Foreman may have thought House was insane for doing things the way he did....but he saved lives like that.
BUT, I also think...you brought up the thing of House's "ideal" world. And I started thinking that...House has it good. Yeah, he's a damned good doctor. To quote: "He's the best son of a *beep* there is." BUT, as Foreman was made an example of, you can get fired for actions that House takes. And yet House doesn't get fired. So, in a way, HOUSE is living in his own little world. BUT, that own little world has made his ducklings better doctors.
Am I making ANY sense here?
I just took an essay mid-term...and I feel like I need to just say everything....because it'll eventually lead me to what I'm REALLY trying to say. XD Not sure if it's working.

OH well.

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Montana, I know exactly what you mean. I remember when Tritter first came on House, and I think it was him who said something about 'not being in tune with House's little world.' And I like to think of it like that, because House can get away with anything. I really feel that he lives in an "unreality," because House could go anywhere else, and never be able to get away with an eighth of the things he does.

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Though the reason why House has his own little world is that his colleagues bend the rules simply because his wayward reckless actions eventually save the patients, the majority of them, in some bizarre situation that otherwise would not have saved their life. Cuddy is a huge factor in the sense that she enables him. Wilson for the longest time deals with his recklessness, and sometimes has to deal with the consequences enables him. Even Stacey enables him and she's not even around anymore!

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Exactly. I'm surprised Foreman didn't remember that House had been fired from three other hospitals before he actually found his little bubble.

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Yes! I think both we and Foreman didn't realize how much she lets him get away with until we were faced with the other head that Foreman was working for. I mean, she fired him for doing something that Cuddy routinely lets House do. (Or fairly routinely.)

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Kit, it's funny that you bring up the fact that Cuddy enables House. Because wasn't it in the season premiere that she was running around shouting "STOP ENABLING HIM!!" ?



And speaking of Foreman, for SOME reason last night I had a dream about him. Sort of. All I remember was I was at the hospital, like it was an episode of House...and Foreman just suddenly appears at House's office door. I don't remember any words, but I got the feeling he wanted his job back or something. Hmmm....strange I'd have a dream about Foreman, considering I don't like him all that much. BUT, this sort of brings up a point...that in the past 3 seasons, I haven't really liked Foreman. For whatever reason, I just didn't. Just something about his character that irked me. BUT, with his "reappearance" in the most recent episode....I kinda like him. Maybe the fact that he's realizing House was cool after all. Ha ha ha ha. I don't know. Can't really explain it.

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Well you didn't like him when he was the opposing force. Now you like him because he's not so much anything right now.

I've always liked Foreman like House likes Foreman (gah, too many likes---runs away from Candy Land), he's got that wild past and he's settled in becoming a doctor.

I'm just waiting for House to make a "Barbie and Ken" remark about Cameron and Chase.

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Haha, I can't believe I've never thought about the Barbie and Ken thing, but that really is true. That'll be amazing if House makes a comment like that.

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Barbie and Ken. That would be classic.

NUmber thirteen....grrrr. If the writers wanted another Cameron, why did they get rid of her in the first place, eh? I mean, come on! She acts, thinks, and looks like cameron! The eyes, the hair, even the pointy little chin! Graaaa! Well, at least she's better than cutthroat. Man, I wanted to hit her so badly....

I really hope the old guy gets chosen. Not just because he was on one of my favorite TV shows, but because it would be nice to have House confering with someone who was more years under his belt.