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PostPosted: January 6th, 2008, 9:42 pm 
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Yeah, it would we adorable!!!!!!!!!

Even though, I have to admit, sadly, Frodo isn't that influential in the storyline.

Was he adopted after the hobbit?

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PostPosted: January 7th, 2008, 12:49 am 
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Actually, i don't think he was born at that point. So, he probably wouldn't be in the film. It would be nice if Ian Holm and Ian Mckellen were, tho. (Btw, Elijah's b-day is coming up--Jan. 28--so maybe we should get the other club going again so we can celebrate it.)

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Being that Elijah was Frodo in the LotR Trilogy, would it be THAT BAD to celebrate it in here?

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ahah wherever you want to celebrate, for me is alright :D
excuse my ignorance, but how old will he turn this year? I lost the count since I was 13 I guess :P

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yeah I know, double post..
but I just found like the cutest pic ever and I had to share it with the Frodo club...
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yeah, like...fangirl moment :P
this is my new default pic on msn instead:
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Frodo-related, so...:P

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that is adorable!!!!!!!! </fangirl>

Although, I don't know if it is truly a fangirl moment with characters. Typically they are with actors.

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ahah yeah I know what you mean. but the strange thing is that I never had "fangirl moments" for elijah wood, even if...well I do like Frodo. oh well I'm weird. never mind :P
I'm not really sure about my new sig set actually...

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These are really adorable pics, Revenge! Thanks for sharing them. And I do like you sig set very much. The text on your banner is great.


Let's see... Elijah was born in 1981, so he'll turn 27, unless I'm mistaken. Wow, he'll be 30 soon! Incredible that he was only 18 when the whole LotR project began.


Eariel, I agree that it would be nice to have Ian McKellen in the Hobbit, but I don't think that Ian Holm would be the best choice. He's, like, to old now to play Bilbo, considering that Bilbo is as old as Frodo in LotR (50), when he starts his journey.

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ahah thanks ForeverFrodo :P
the text if from the two towers, if I remember right...

btw, Bilbo as a young hobbit could be a cool one :P
and woah, 27 year old! I remember celebrating elijah's 24th birthday! oh I was so young and innocent :P and I can't believe it's almost 10 years since the whole lotr project began...my gosh time flies...

btw, I have some sort of frodo-related topic to discuss here now. I'm reading a lot of literary essays on the lord of the rings now, very interesting of course, and I found out that there are something like two school of thinking, two "sides" about the interpretation of the end of the lord of the rings. the end of the ring actually. there are some who think that frodo failed his mission, taking the ring for him at the very end of the journey, and some that that frodo didn't fail his mission. so I'd like to year what you guys think about it. I'm quite sure that we all think he didn't fail, but it would be interesting to read everybody's opinion...if you feel like sharing it of course...
woah sorry for the long post :P

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Interesting question. Well, I think Frodo succeeded, although in fact, he failed. Let me explain: On the one hand there is no doubt that he failed, because he wasn't strong enough to throw the ring into the fire. On the other hand, the ring was destroyed because of him, through Gollum. If Frodo had not spared him earlier, he would not have been there on Mt Doom to bite off his finger and destroy the ring (although unintentionally).
So, because of Frodo's pity, Middle-earth was saved. Therefore I think that Frodo succeeded, but on a moral level, not a factual one.

This was complicated. Hope you get my meaning...(this is one of these days --- my English got lost somewhere... :-( )

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yeah I get it ForeverFrodo. it is a very interesting point of view actually. I definitely agree. I read an interesting point of view of an italian professor, who said that frodo's mission wasn't to throw the ring in the fire of mount doom. he said that no one ever in the books, with the exception of gandalf at the beginning of the fellowship of the ring, said to frodo that he had to throw the ring. this professor said that frodo's mission was actually making possible that the ring got destroyed by its own creature, gollum, not destroying the ring himself. so, being his mission to make possible that the ring was destroyed, frodo definitely succed. I don't know if this is actually comprehensible :P I hope it is. I thought it was a very interesting opinion.

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It's certainly an interesting point. I believe while he failed to complete his mission, he didn't really fail in a sense, because he was willing to sacrifice his own life and for a time, his identity and sense of who he was and all, in order to fulfill his mission. Sure he wasn't able to cast the Ring into the Fire, but he's a hero nonetheless. *hugs Frodo plushie*
Btw, I love your sig set, Revenge! [/fangirl] (Personally, i am of the firm opinion that one can be a fangirl of a character as well as an actor. :P lol)
Yeah, i think you're right about Elijah's age. Man, it was all so long ago, now...!
Also, i can see your point, Forever. I guess it might be good to have a younger Bilbo, in that case. *hopes to have successfully convinced herself she's okay with that* lol
About Lij's birthday, i'd be fine with us celebrating here, but i'm a little concerned that the mods might think we were getting offtopic. So that's why I suggested doing it in the other club. ;)

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Hmmm....Frodo's mission was to take the ring into mordor, and throw it into Mt. Doom. So, by that, he did fail his mission. However, the ring could not have been destroyed without him. So, he did not succeed at the mission, but he did majorly contribute to saving Middle Earth.

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it's interesting to read everyone's point of view :P
I have no friends in the real life being really lotr fans, so I can't talk with them about this things, and I love talking about it here :)
and of course he's a hero Eariel...oh and thanks,I kinda like my new set, I wasn't sure about it, but I think I'll keep it for a while :D

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yeah I get it ForeverFrodo. it is a very interesting point of view actually. I definitely agree. I read an interesting point of view of an italian professor, who said that frodo's mission wasn't to throw the ring in the fire of mount doom. he said that no one ever in the books, with the exception of gandalf at the beginning of the fellowship of the ring, said to frodo that he had to throw the ring. this professor said that frodo's mission was actually making possible that the ring got destroyed by its own creature, gollum, not destroying the ring himself. so, being his mission to make possible that the ring was destroyed, frodo definitely succed. I don't know if this is actually comprehensible :P I hope it is. I thought it was a very interesting opinion.



This is interesting. I've read a lot of secondary literature on LotR myself, but I've never heard this point of view before. I think there is a lot of truth to it, because we are told in the beginning that nobody, really nobody could avoid temptation by the ring or be strong enough to thow it into the fire. On the other hand, nobody knew in the beginning that Gollum would be there to do it, so Gandalf must have been expecting Frodo to throw it (unless he had some premonition about what's going to happen).

I think one cannot come to an univocal conclusion here, but it's interesting to discuss the different points of view.

(And of course Frodo's a hero, Eariel. Nobody here would ever question that :P )

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^yeah when I read that article I was like "woah could have never thought something like this!" it is such an interesting opinion! I actually kept thinking about it most of the morning at school :P

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