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Post subject:  Posted: January 12th, 2008, 3:41 pm |
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Kitoky wrote: For Leaving / Coming back-----when you say repost in the There and Back Again thread, do you mean.... have someone copy-paste the farewell/back post in the thread or....?
Until it becomes an established habit amongst members, I think that locking and requesting that it be reposted in the There and Back again thread would be a smart course.
That make more sense?
EDIT- I think Ellie might have an idea here. Ha certainly got potential
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Post subject: Posted: January 12th, 2008, 3:42 pm |
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Kitoky wrote: Elegost Eruaphadion wrote: Whilst I agree that Your Life <i>is</i> cluttered, I will say there are other ways to clean it up. Do you have any suggestions (or can think) of ways to try and clean up and prevent Your Life from getting so cluttered? We are always open to suggestions.  The Lamenter wrote: First of all, I said that I meant no personal offence in making this post Nie. All I wanted to know was the reasoning, because it just seemed odd. On reflection, perhaps, a PM to yourself or the Mods would have been more appropriate. We understand that you meant no attack on a moderator, The Lamenter. But there perhaps could've been other ways of wording your thread post so that it did not single a mod out. It's possible to question why an action was taken or was not taken in a general way. Discussing things online can be tricky, especially with something thin-lined as this and getting the impression of how someone is posting is difficult to gage. Nie felt that it <i>was</i> questioning her integrity; and therefore, she went on the defensive. Just like how you're going on the defensive now. No, The Lamenter, no one said that you were an evil, evil, evil person for asking a question. My interactions with you on the forum have always been formal, polite, and pleasant. But, you always have to be careful with how posts may seem to come across. The fact that you referred to Nie's reaction to Aerandir's leaving post was just to close it <i>did</i> come across as implying that she was heartless, which was in fact not the case. Future questions on inquiries of why some mods do this or some mods do that can be easily be answered by a pm. We have always asked questions on a moderator's actions to be pm'd The A-U Moderators account, or another active moderator. Should we have an onslaught of the same question from time to time, we can easily post an announcement thread explaining so members can refer to it. Thank you, Kitoky 
Anyway, as I said, personally I don't see a problem with anniversary threads being posted in the Your Life section, they are not about parting or returning, and although there are a few of them, if they are in their rightful place, I don't see any reason for them to have their own little thread as this will just be another stickied topic, of which there are already quite a few.
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Post subject: Posted: January 12th, 2008, 5:10 pm |
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I can see the problem with Leaving/Coming Back threads, however I don't understand why Anniversary threads have been dragged into this. They've never been a problem before, and I actually I don't think I've ever seen any of them locked or complained about before. So, why make them a problem now? I think we should be focusing on what to do about Leaving/Coming Back threads, as that was what this thread was about in the first place. Whilst I agree that it's good to have member input on where they should go, I think the ultimate decision should come to the mods. They are mini-Arwebs in a way, and do have a certain amount of control over what happens here.
I see Ellie's point on the subject of Leaving/Coming Back threads, however, there is a specific thread for them and I think we should begin using it. Personally, I like Lammy's idea on this one. I think every Leaving/Coming Back thread should be locked [so that no one has reason to feel discriminated against], and the person's post can then be copied and pasted in the correct area. Mods may want to suggest that when locking the thread as well so that the person doesn't feel put out. Eventually, putting such topics in the proper thread will become a habit.
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Post subject: Posted: January 12th, 2008, 5:47 pm |
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Lol, Im feeling the idea that we may have finished the debate section, and are starting to develop ideas  :P:P
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Post subject: Posted: January 12th, 2008, 5:52 pm |
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Elegost Eruaphadion wrote: You know what I mean.  I know what you mean Bro. It makes sense of course, otherwise you'd never know the results
I think, for existing Leaving threads like Ellies and Este's, we should leave them unlocked, and that it would be better to start a locking and redirecting policy on brand new threads.
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Post subject: Posted: January 12th, 2008, 7:49 pm |
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*jumps into the conversation* My two cents- I like the idea of moving any coming/going threads into the introduction section. Personally, I'm ok with people starting their own threads to say goodbye- they're easier to notice that way. The intro section would be a good place for them, I think. That would help keep the forum more organized.
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Post subject: Posted: January 12th, 2008, 9:31 pm |
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Haldir o Lórien wrote: Because of course they lock all the welcoming threads and tell all the new people to welcome themselves only in the main welcoming thread (which is, by the way, a completely pointless thread). [/sarcasm] Okay really, posting a farewell thread is the same as posting a welcoming thread. Making a new topic isn't going to take up any extra web space... it doesn't matter if you make a new thread for it or if you post in a main one, you'll still take up as much web space. But yeah good question, Lammy (sorry couldn't resist )... I'd like to know the reasoning behind it too. It doesn't seem quite just, seeing as 5758798795658^10000 members before Aerandir have made similar topics. Well, you can pay for it. I agree that a welcoming thread is the same as leaving thread- both not horribly important. you can say "Hello" too who you want or "goodbye" to who you want through a PM. since neither are neccessary, we can completely stop both right now, agree?
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Post subject: Posted: January 14th, 2008, 7:16 pm |
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Radagast wrote: Haldir o Lórien wrote: Because of course they lock all the welcoming threads and tell all the new people to welcome themselves only in the main welcoming thread (which is, by the way, a completely pointless thread). [/sarcasm] Okay really, posting a farewell thread is the same as posting a welcoming thread. Making a new topic isn't going to take up any extra web space... it doesn't matter if you make a new thread for it or if you post in a main one, you'll still take up as much web space. But yeah good question, Lammy (sorry couldn't resist )... I'd like to know the reasoning behind it too. It doesn't seem quite just, seeing as 5758798795658^10000 members before Aerandir have made similar topics. Well, you can pay for it. I agree that a welcoming thread is the same as leaving thread- both not horribly important. you can say "Hello" too who you want or "goodbye" to who you want through a PM. since neither are neccessary, we can completely stop both right now, agree? with this, I say goodbye, for I am leaving. Until I realize that I dont want to leave and come back with a large post about me coming back three days later. Go on. Ill go with that suggestion if you can convince everyone else to go along with it 
The reason such threads exist is because its simpler to do, and also can be made more personal than PM's. Thats what the reasoning is I think
At the end of the day, the Mods and Arweb make the call, so *shrugs*
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Post subject: Posted: January 14th, 2008, 7:21 pm |
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Moddies and Arwebby are discussing now. Thank you for all the suggestions.
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Post subject: Posted: January 17th, 2008, 8:45 am |
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I'd just like to add my thoughts to this discussion. The way I see it, the long 'goodbye threads' are different to the kind of thing that should be in the comings and goings thread. The way I see it, that thread is to let everyone know that you are going to be away on holiday for a week, or unable to access the forums for whatever reason over the next x number of days.
Goodbye threads are entirely different. They are for someone who is saying that they are leaving for good, and not coming back. That sort of thing requires a seperate thread. That way everyone can say their goodbyes and make communications arrangements in a seperate environment. If they just get lumped in with the other thread the goodbyes are just going to be lost, and large numbers of people will be unaware of the members situation, and may be wondering where they have gone. You can put them in which ever section takes your fancy, but each member deserves their own thread for all they have given our community. Whatever you decide, please make it so that each person is able to have the farewell they deserve.
[Please note that this is in no way related to the issue at the start of this topic. I'm merely adding another perspective to the ensuing discussion.]
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Post subject: Posted: January 17th, 2008, 10:51 pm |
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I agree with Darrell. I think that temporary comings and goings should be kept in their a single thread, but anniversaries and permanent departures can hold their own threads. (I'm willing to consider a single anniversary thread, though, as long as it were stickied. But do we really need more stickies...?  ) _________________ <center> all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us
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