Yeah, that's just what I meant. Aragorn seems to think that Eowyn should just be a normal woman who stays at home for the good of his peace of mind. I love the fact that she ignores this advice - even if she's heartbroken and miserable when she rides away to the Pelennor.

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Lol! sorry

Well, I don't think she rides away heartbroken, not in the books at least. Well, or I just didn't have the impression that this was one of her reasons to ride. She fights for those she loves, she doesn't have to stay behind and hear from messengers of the death of those she loved, she will be remembered, maybe somewhere in her she also has the hope to find Aragorn there, as he went the other road to Minas Tirith, to see him there again... and of course, somewhere deep inside the wish to die.

She doesn't want to be left behind, just like Merry, but be involved and help.

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I think maybe it was one of her reasons, as part of a whole group of reasons. She knows she has no chance of being with Aragorn - so she doesn't think she has any hope of being loved; though of course thinking so she forgets the people she truly loves, in a small way - as Aragorn says to Eomer, "you she truly loves more than she does me. You she knows; in me she loves only a shadow and a thought, and a hope of life far away from the fields of Rohan." Or something like that anyway, as best as I can remember it.
But mostly I think it's all that you said, why she rode away.

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I think Aragorn is aware of Eowyn's feelings quite clearly, or he believes in the one and only true love for people, which he shares with Arwen, and so Eowyn must be mistaken if she calls it 'love' what she feels for him.
It is only admiration for him I guess, for she doesn't know him long enough so that it can be friendship. Pure admiration of his skills, his power, his destiny.

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I'm glad Eowyn realises what true love actually is when she meets Faramir.

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Yes, they just are the perfect couple in LotR, aren't they? Well, for me they are, unfortunately I'm no such fan of the Arwen-Aragorn story.

What I missed in the movie, and also in the book a little, were more scenes between Eowyn with Theoden, or especially with her brother, Eomer. I would have liked to know more about them.

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I liked the scene in Dunharrow when Theoden tells Eowyn what he would like her to do for him when he is gone with the Rohirrim. It always manages to make me tearful a tiny bit...

"What other duty would you have me do my lord?"

"Duty? No. I would have you smile again. Not grieve for those whose time has come. You will live to see these days renewed. No more despair."

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~~Siggy by Lembas~~

Yes, that's a very special scene between them, it's like him saying goodbye to her, it's the last time they talk before he lays slain on Pelennor. But Eowyn also seems very cold in this scene, pointing out somehow that she would do whatever he'd ask from her, even although she does not agree to stay behind. Actually... she disobeyed this order of his.

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In disobeying him, she managed to stop the Witchking and his fell beast from doing any more further damage to Theoden before he died. And in the film at least, it's Eowyn who hears Theoden's last words - though in the book it's Merry.

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Well, I never saw that she was disobeying so many orders, from Aragorn, from Theoden, actually in the movie from her brother as well, tho it wasn't a direct order. She really did well in disobeying this one time, doing much good for the world by doing so!

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Yes, if she hadn't have done that, the Witchking would still have been alive and evil as always

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Indeed! if he wouldn't have killed him, I wonder who would have killed him then... Merry wouldn't have ridden to war either, and even if he would have managed, he wouldn't have killed the Witchking.
Well, I'm very thankful for Eowyn to ride and bring down this Nazgul!

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Me too.
Nazguls are like... the exact representation of evil. Tolkien couldn't have made it better. They're just simply corrupted creatures with no sense of good in them anymore. It cheers the heart when Eowyn throws him down. The orcs call the Nazgul the apple of the Great Eye... well, without them, Sauron was nothing.

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I'm just imagining how it would be to be Eowyn in that situation... I believe I just would freeze out of fear, unable to move, although I so would wish to move and fight... Horrible feeling! Trapped between fear and courage.
And it wasn't only the Nazgul, but also that fellbeast, it has such snake-like movements, that I would feel the urge to flee inside me... Help!

I really admire Eowyn for the courage of simply standing against those two, but I believe what's the major difference between Eowyn and me is that she is not really afraid of death in this situation. I definitely would be!

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I'd be scared too... in this one way, as well as lots of other reasons, Eowyn's a really good role model. The books says that she doesn't "blench" or something like that, but chops the fell beast's head off! I could never do that.

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~~Siggy by Lembas~~

It's very difficult to find the strength to go between the dying uncle, and a fellbeast with the Witchking on top. It must be a mix of feelings that made her strong and forget to fear those, love, courage, the wish to die... Without being in exactly the emotions she must have felt during these moments we probably can't be sure if we would have this courage.

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