^ Very true. I have a friend who I thought was one of my best friends... but she's changed. People change. That's another reason why people our age get depressed... because they think that it's their fault.

Seriously, it is never your fault.

They may just be going through a phase and they'll eventally find their heads again, but sometimes they change and are never the same person that you liked when you started being their friend.

When you're looking for a friend, you're looking for yourself, and when you find your truest best friend, that's hwen you realise who and what you want to be.

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Well, it is sometimes your fault. You could have been the one that changed. I had a bestfriend that just...turned on me. And I was too different from when we were younger and she was too different and we start fighting and now we can't stand the sight of each other. So I had some part to play in that but what happened happened. Not much I can do to change it now. I don't want to change it, actually. I hate her too much.

Personally I feel depressed a lot. I don't have that good of friends. Mostly it's my doing. I think I expect too much from them, and when i realize that I have a fault that makes it hard for me too keep relationships going scares me so I pull away all together. Some of my friends are really gross and immature. I have told my bff that I don't like being around them, but she has made it clear, it's them over me. I get ignored a lot. I try to talk to people, my family, friends. No one listens. I don't know what i am looking for but what ever it is, is making me feel almost sick. I cry sometimes. But I haven't in a long time. Plus, I'm kinda...not skinny, lets just say. I have to admit, i love food, food is my comfort and I keep packing on pounds, that also makes me upset.

God has been my refuge, but even then I don't feel like i have the strongest relationship with him as I could.

I come on AU because all my troubles are just lost and I can be myself without having to worry about the pressures to be cool and 'pretty' at school.

Sorry to dump all this on you guys, just following the topic.

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It's bad... all these issues with everyone.

When you all say, "No one listens", I kinda find that hard to believe. There usually is someone ready to listen, it's just that sometimes you're too worried about your sorrows to notice. What most people need is a whole new attitude to life, from being pessimistic to optimistic. Then people will look beyond what they've judged you as, and they'll think, "You know, this person isn't so bad." and people will start to LIKE you. Sorry for being a bit harsh, but that's the truth.

Anyway, Amoniel, your friends don't sound like great friends. You should stand up to them, and say how you feel, and if they don't care, just ditch them. They're not worth it if they don't care about you. You could see a counsellor, if there is one at your school, but sometimes a counsellor can just make things even worse. Tell your parents. I always feel that I can go to my mum when there's something bugging me, so maybe you can spend some time with your mum or dad.

Whatever happens you know you can always talk to one of us at A-U.

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At least you got the courage to tell it, I didn't. (well I did, but I was drunk )

I always expect too much of people. Those that don't meet my expectactions (really, how do you spell that?) are suckers or fakers, even though they really aren't. Plus, I judge everyone, including me, too hard so that makes it even worse. Meaning I don't get along with people too well. And I really, really don't, I managed to make my class hate me in one week and I'm not planning to talk to them again. I broke up with my best friends because they started smoking. Yes, stupid excuse, don't tell me that ... There were other reasons, better. But I'm not sorry for stuff I've done in my life.

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What are we talking about? Seems like a big discussion since people are typing up paragraphs.

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(i would really like to put a huge long rant against God/religion here, but seeing as the rules say no, i will have to find something else to put.)

And Altariel, what do you mean by being friends with a "loser"? I dont think anyone is a loser, just becuase they're different or they have different morals doesn't mean they're a loser...

I just wanted to mention, we shouldn't make generalizations that people of a certain religion would make better friends than others. I have friends of all religions; buddhist, muslim, christian, agnostic and pagan. I think they are all wonderful people and they listen to me and provide very sound counsel. Just because they don't have the same ideologies, doesn't make me rule them out as being friends. And I urge others to do so, because you never know who could be your best friend until you give them a chance regardless of ethniticity, gender, orientation and religious background.

We've all gone through friend problems and sometimes it takes awhile to find those who are really good. And if you ever feel "ignored" by your friends, remember you have us at A-U to tell it to! I, too, was ignored throughout my grade school and some of my high school life. It is awful, I remember. One of my friends said "Oh, you just have social invisibility" I remember going home and crying, because I just wanted to have friends and be like everyone else. So, trust me, I've been in the ickly friend situation. Woah, there goes me gushing out my heart too.....


At school, we always see other people who seem "different" and we promptly label them as "losers" I'm curious to know how everyone defines "losers".

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Thats why its best NOT to have any friends whatsoever. Luckily, I only wanted to be homeschooled for 8th grade this year, because people at school were giving me a hard time, because I was "shy" and I was a "bookworm" and just plain "weird."

But, I do have online friends, and everything is as smooth as anything..no fights really, as long as your not mean. But..yeah..I guess sometimes its nice to have a few real-life friends, but, I like being alone...its just me. And my mother was telling me the other day that even when I was in pre-school I never played with any of the other kids.

whoo..end of my explantion.

No rl friends must be a sad life... I mean, I totally do appreciate and love my online friends to death, but even though I share everything with certain online friends, I can't share it in the same way. You can't giggle with online friends the way you can with rl friends. You can't laugh until you cry with them. Obviously, you can laugh till you cry because of something they said, but still not with them.
For a while I only lived online, I only cared about my online friends, and I barely ever hung out with my rl friends, but after I reduced my time online quite a bit, I've come to understand how much rl friends mean. I don't have very many, and I don't see them very often, and that sometimes makes me sad and lonely. Sometimes I go online, but if my mom doesn't let me do that, I just walk around in the house doing nothing, or I lie in my bed. And... that doesn't seem like the right way to live, to me. Obviously, it's my life, and I should be perfectly happy about it, but I'm not. And I wish I had more rl friends, cause they're worth their weight in gold. No, actually they're worth more than that. And even though sometimes you fight with your friends, that just help in making the relationship stronger - in most cases. I do realise that some "friends" aren't worth keeping, and that is sad, of course. But I think we can learn something from those people too. They can teach us how we shouldn't behave. So I see rl friends as a really important thing.
Now, Tifa, I don't want you to see this as a personal attack or something, cause it's totally not. I do fully and completely understand what you mean, the only reason why I quoted you is that your post inspired me to write all this. I hope I didn't drive y'all crazy with all my typing I just have a lot to say

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I was just reading through this discussion (well, this most recent page) and I just PMed Haldir to see if I could join the club, so I hope you guys don't mind me popping into the conversation!



I agree with you on this; mostly. I love all my friends dearly, and they're all very close, but they do hurt me sometimes. However, whenever I am hurt by them, I either talk about it with them or forgive them before it gets to be too much. I'm a Christian as well, but I know that not all my friends are. Some of them are, but not all. The others are just kind of 'floaters' I guess...not really caring either way. But anyway, that's not the point. I agree that Jesus is the only friend you can only ever lean on and be sure that He's there. I don't want to offend any non-Christian members of the board here, so I'll just stop there and say I agree with what Altariel said ^^

Friends are a source of a lot of stress in my life, that's very true, but I actually have to say I get along WAY worse with my family.

This is pretty deep, and I have only admitted it to one person in RL, but I don't even know if I love my dad. =/ He tries to be nice to me, and always says that he loves me, but then he'll go and do something that makes me think he hates me, or that he might physically hurt me. Like I said, we just don't get along, and most of the time I don't even like being around him. It kind of pushes my mom and I apart, too, because I love my mom SO much, but when she sees me acting distant with my dad, it makes her angry/sad with me. I don't know what to do, so mostly I just have to turn to God or to my BFF. Both of them understand me, and don't criticize me for the way I feel. I want to love my dad, but I don't know if I can. I almost feel left out from life, because whenever I here about great 'fatherly/daughterly relationships', I feel like "I wish I could have that!"

OK, I feel like a rambling baboon now xD And this is my first post in the club, too! Well, I hope you guys can make a sense out of that, and I hope you don't think I sound too stupid...=/

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Sorry to sound really sensitive, but i can't post here any more if the christians continue to preach about Jesus and God, i cant handle preachings of any sort and im really not in the mood for it, so maybe in a few days i'll start posting again(btw, my bff is a Christian, and her dad is an Anglcian preist, so i dont hate religious people). I've been awesome my entire life without any religion, i'm care free and do what i wish, religion(IMHO) is nothing more than a restraint. Sorry, but i'll see you guys in a few days.

Z'actly. Im different, and im considered a loser to alot of the girly girl gossipy ladys in my school. I dont care really, but it does get lonley being a loner. I feel alone alot.

Yesterday I felt really low, but something that always seems to help me is reading..yes...especially Lord of the Rings, or books with cool encouraging qoutes.

Some of my friends well most of them I feel like they dont really listen to me when im talking to them half the time if there not in the mood to listen or if something more interesting to them is going on in the room that envovles popular people. highschool is wierd

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sorry you feel that way, Darkie. Then I shall restrain myself right now saying something relgious....and I am reglious, and Christian. but I DONT try to shove something up to people that they dont like. not everyone believes in God, and I know that; its natural. but some ppl (not saying to anyone present) just have to accept that fact and not be-bother about with ppl who dont believe like tehy do.

^I agree, i don't like it when people shove there religions at me and personally i like the No Religion Rule. I'm sorry that i posted something religious in my last post! So lets all try to refrain from talking about our Religions. Not everyone is Christian, Jewish, Morman, Muslim, etc. so lets just keep our religious opinions seperate!

btw. I'm even more depressed now. I failed my behind-the-wheel driving test. It kinda sucks.

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